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How long does Parky persevere with Grigg?

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  1. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    He has been subbed in just about every game he has started, he is hiding in games, and has been since he came here, something is seriously wrong with him imo. These excuses have been used from the start and just don't hold water, he needs to be rested, loaned, or sold if we can get shot.
     
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  2. Nacho

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    I tend to agree that he puts himself about reasonably well, especially this season. The problem with him for me is that much like Wyke he's always in the wrong place when a cross does come in he never seems to anticipate anything and as a result the defender gets to it first 9 times out of 10.

    There's not much we can do about that other than tell the wingers to get it in early and for Grigg to expect that because he doesn't read the game otherwise, not while he's in this bad patch.
     
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  3. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    thing is mate he’s not getting fast balls into feet. The few goals he’s scored have been through really fast reactions Ie first touch bang.

    how many chances can you say he has per game are like that?

    he’s not scoring because we’re not creating imo.
     
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  4. turnthetide3

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    Think OP has his answer - he's nowhere to be seen for tonight's match lol
     
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  5. Nacho

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    The passes he does get have to be inch perfect because if it's not he's going to react too slowly and not be able to get it under control. It's so frustrating watching him (and Wyke) because everything's he nearly did this and he nearly did that without ever actually managing anything. You've got to draw a line somewhere he's been in terrible form since we got him.
     
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    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully he bucks his ideas up as PP has sent him a clear message
     
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    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    Agreed he’s having a bad patch but he’s certainly got the skills to come out on top imo.
     
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  8. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    For example mcnulty has started this match and has been absolutely useless so far.

    it’s down to the supply imo.
     
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  9. Nacho

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    I'd say out of the two of them McNulty is more likely to make something happen without it being put on a plate, he needs a decent run in the team though he's had a fraction of Grigg's minutes.
     
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  10. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Agreed
     
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  11. FulwellBri

    FulwellBri Well-Known Member

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    I love these sweeping solutions!
    How exactly do we 'just get rid'?
    We wouldnt get a penny for him.
    He will no doubt be one of the highest paid players in this league ( rest are at safc anyway ) so it would cost us money to ' just get rid'!
    Where is this stash that pays for this squad holocaust/ final solution that you so feverishly advocate?
    We are next to skint.
    You want us to go into more debt?
     
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  12. polyphemus

    polyphemus Well-Known Member

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    This solution is tried and tested and as old as the Game itself.
    I believe that it has fallen out of favour over recent years, as the more scientific approach has taken over, but as the new way clearly hasn't worked, at least it's a plan.

    In the 50's there was a spell when Shack was going through a lean time of it.
    HE ASKED to be dropped to the Reserves for a couple of games.
    This sharpened him up (and increased the gate), and he returned, back to his best.

    In a similar way Brian Clough not long after he joined went through a 'lean spell'.
    Alan Brown played him in the Reserves which probably hit Brian hard in the ego.
    Again he came roaring back.
     
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  13. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    If Grigg is on a 'lean' spell.. he is anorexic and needs medical/mental health assistance
     
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  14. polyphemus

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    I've never been any good as a football player, so I can not speak from experience in any way, but Strikers have always interested me.

    The pressure they are often under when not scoring must at times be like carrying the cares of the world on their shoulders.
    The reverse of this is that when all is going well, they get praised (and paid) up to the highest level.

    One thing (at least) that I have learned is that for most strikers it's mostly down to confidence.
    When confidence is high, they just can't miss, but when confidence is low, they couldn't score in a brothel, even if they got in with a free pass.

    Put yourself in the place of a misfiring striker at your own place of work.
    (1) Will your performance improve if you get shouted at?
    (2) Will you get back on track with encouragement?

    If you think it's (1), by all means feel free to jeer at the player.
    If you think it's (2), support him.
     
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  15. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    You make some great points, but I feel that the lad just doesn't want to be here. Nothing about his demeanour/body language suggests that he is interested in playing for SAFC.
     
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  16. Nacho

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    You're not wrong but if it was any other job he'd have been under performance review and fired a long time ago. It'd be like an IT worker who takes until 3pm everyday to find the on button on his computer.

    The fact it's a very well paid job and the whole company is at risk of going under because of this one gimp who can't turn his computer on makes it worse.
     
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  17. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    I doubt anything I say or do (or any fan for that matter) will make him play better or worse
    I thought most sports people had psychologists on the payroll to promote mental wellbeing?
     
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  18. FulwellBri

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    I think we need to accept we have a dud.
    Bear in mind he hadnt scored in months for Wigan when we bought him it isnt confined just to us.
    A sports psychologist in some quarters could be viewed as throwing good money ( we dont have ) after bad. It's not just grigg. Wyke may as well be a gk for the all the goals he scores. He also has dried up like like a nun's cuff.
    I blame majority of our malaise on ross.
    He has left demotivated, defeatist desolate squad behind with a chokers mentality. It was never an easy job to take on and I dont believe PP has the talent, experience, credibility or personality to do enough in time this season to do what we need. As a renowned yes man he will be kowtowing to the money men in January and then making excuses for them when we dont bring in replacements.
    Stendel and Pearson were the fans favourites to take over and clearly donald wanted a compliant football man in the dug out. Yet so many fans swoon about donald ' getting us and listening to us'.
    What a crock. Donald cares about one thing..his bank balance. Making it grow asap without risking a brass razzoo of his own. I dont blame him for doing that. It is the way of the world, but he is far from the jocular benefactor many paint him as.
     
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