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So are you or hiag right? You think poch is to blame whereas hiag things poch has sun shining out of his arse and its the players fault

 

HIAG has now admitted that Levy's 'failure to act' is responsible. I did tell him this a couple of years ago.

 

I think it's a bit of both but it would have been prevented if Levy did his job right.

 

I know you and I have had this discussion about Levy and ENIC before, so you get it. Hence the reason I've always been 'long live Levy' as he's a chairman with a glass ceiling.

HIAG won't have it either way, he's still there sucking off both Poch and Levy as he's blind to it all. I'm not sure how much more obvious Poch could have made it when, several times in public he's spoken about how the club need to back him to take Spurs onto the next step ?

 

He’s not one of football’s best though is he?

He’s a very good manager especially when working with younger players but there’s another level to being described as one of football’s best. One of football’s best wouldn’t drop the very player that got him to a CL final yet start not one but two unfit players.

Ask yourself just why players are falling out of form. The likelihood is they’re being asked to do the same thing as they were 5 years ago and expect better results. It’s borderline the definition of insanity. I wouldn’t be surprised if after the CL final the players finally felt that Poch’s philosophy and style was ultimately gonna be fruitless. He always used the term ‘belief’ over the years, and after many years of being the nearly men, the players have lost that belief.

 

Trying to drive a wedge between me and my main man, Bobby?

Spurly and I want the same thing, which is for Spurs to be great again. It's just that, at the moment, we have a difference of opinion as to how that is to be achieved.

 

I'm sure that Poch knows what the problems are and that he has a very good idea about how to solve them. I'm equally certain that he has been forced to accept the limitations on spending that apply to our club.

I'm sure that one of the benefits of the new stadium will be that we will be able to compete more effectively in the transfer market, in future seasons.

I do not buy into the simplistic narrative that Poch is to blame for everything, or that he is substantially to blame.

Is he perfect? Of course not. No one is.

Is that a reason to get rid of him? No, I don't believe it is.

 

Course not. It was more spurly talking about no football talk here because you were fannying around with piskie when ironically you and spurly had two different views which i wanted to point out

 

Oh.

 

Is the same thing fun? Girls just wanna, and all that?

 

Wood you say that Poch is just a poor man's Brenda, Quents?

No wumming .. seriously interested.

 

That’s debatable because our problems have been since February. So with an off-season in between you’d like to think he’d have tried sorting out our turgid style of play, we’re arguably now playing worse than we were than the second half of last season. The only shining lights have been Son and Ndombele, Lo Celso and Foyth may add to that as both have looked good since returning to fitness.

Poch isn’t solely to blame but realistically you can’t sack a chairman and you can’t sack the players. This team is crying out for fresh ideas and Poch has yet to show any signs he’s able to get the best out of this current squad. Doesn’t make him bad, just means he as well as us need a fresh start.

Declining in his sixth season is not how things should be going.

 

You're wasting your time with HIAG mate. It's not Levy's fault, it's not Poch's fault and it's not the players fault according to him.

I think Poch is a decent manager, albeit with some tactical flaws and some baffling ideas when it comes to substitutions. What's happening at Spurs as far as I can see though, is that you have a group of players who are past their best / have become disillusioned. And a chairman who has repeatedly refused to back the manager to get the players he wants.

Poch repeatedly refers to the 'project' which looks like it's run its course. I think Poch wants a new challenge and to be honest, there are a number of suitors out there who want his services. It might be best for both parties to part ways and have a refresh at Spurs.

 

Why sack anyone?

What is sacking Poch going to achieve?

You have seen what’s happened at Arsenal and United. It isn’t necessarily greener on the other side.

 

I think if Levy offered him a job, he’d be off like a shot.

Not wumming. I’m being serious.

 

Sacking managers doesn’t guarantee anything but it signals an intent for change when things are going abysmally.

New managers are 50-50, for every Emery at Arsenal you get a Rodgers at Leicester. The chances of us improving under someone like Allegri (if we could tempt him) is likely higher than improving under Pochettino because Allegri has a higher pedigree and better experience with senior squads.

We’re on a run of form that since February has seen us pick up just 25 points from 24 games. If that was in one season we’d be in a relegation scrap. This isn’t just a bad patch of form, something is seriously wrong and persisting with it is only going to get worse.

 

It’s a risk I don’t think we should be taking, just yet.

 

Poch? ... probably. Independent trader wing?

Brenda? No chance Quents... He left a bigger club than Spurs to come to us ...and just read how much he is loving it at Leicester ... great pool of young talent, virtually unlimited funds for transfers from a Chairman who will back him and, by this time next year, the best training facility in Europe, if not the world.

The times they are a changing, Quents

 

Have you seen what happened to arsenal since they kept wenger past his sell by date? It might happen to the spuds too

 

It is happening to the Spuds.