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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear the plot thickens
     
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  2. Bwood_Ranger

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    Boris went back on his word for the umpteenth time to sign a deal he’s since proven he doesn’t understand. They’ve said enough times they regret the result of our illegal and flawed* referendum and don’t wish to punish our citizens for the Tories trying to keep themselves together.

    It’s taken years due to our self-imposed red lines. A Norwayesque deal has always been on the table had we wanted it so there’s no reason this needs to take long and nothing to suggest it would take longer overall than going down the Tory’s preferred route.
     
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  3. ELLERS

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    Tell that to the southern European unemployed youth or maybe the countless business or even Greece?
     
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    You're right about one thing. Since Labour will campaign against their new deal in a referendum, they'll probably say to Brussels, give us the worse thing on offer so we can be sure the UK electorate reject it.
     
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    How much of that did you read or did you just read the headline? Do you subscribe to the Telegraph on line?
     
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    They’d probably have done a better job of running Greece than the Greeks but they let governments manage themselves, sadly.
     
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    And then they will probably accept it.
     
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    Not just Greece Watford, what about the mass youth unemployment in Souther Europe or the closing down of countless Italian companies?
     
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  9. Bwood_Ranger

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    What do you want the EU to do about it? They’ll invest in deprived areas as they have done here but they can’t reverse time on Italian/Spanish/Portuguese governments’ policies.

    Where they get involved they’re accused of meddling and where they don’t they’re accused of being powerless or not caring.
     
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    Labour will have spent a lot of time sounding out EU leaders about what they would likely agree to. If Labour went back and said 'Give us a Norway-type arrangement', it could be agreed in no time. Then let the people decide on Norway versus Remain. It's really not that complicated.
     
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    I CANNOT GET MY HEAD AROUND IT
     
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    Read it all and no i dont comrade
     
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  13. Goldhawk-Road

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    And the 52% who voted Leave would accept that, would they?
     
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    They can’t agree between Boris’ version of Leave and Sir Nige’s version nor any of the other versions so I doubt they all will, no.
     
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    The problem with that comrade is that all the 52% wont all accept Borisovs way of leaving either.
     
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    The majority will go with the Boris deal. All the heavyweights are behind it. Nigel just has Richard Tice and Anne Widdecombe.
     
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  17. bobmid

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    You may be surprised Goldy. The real, true leavers surely will side with big Nige as Borisovs isnt brexit, therefore not what they voted for.
     
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    Dunno man. The bots on Twitter seem to fancy Sir Nige’s version. It’s almost like they shouldn’t have asked such a simple question on the ballot or agreed a deal and put it up against Remain.
     
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    Democracy, Goldie. It pre-supposes that Johnson has failed to get his majority, which would be a rejection of his deal at the very least and perhaps even a full-on Remain vote.

    If Labour then agreed a Norway deal, they could vote for that. If they won, we'd leave.
     
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    I have a rather uneducated lad work for me, we were talking about this Russian report. He says "its bollox, doesnt exist, otherwise why havent we seen it"
    Bless him
     
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