1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

January transfer window 2020

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    10,976
    Likes Received:
    14,462
    The problem with Grigg is that everyone thought he was a goalscorer..Parky still thinks he will come good.

    Wyke might be okay as a Quin to a Phillips?
     
    #61
  2. FulwellBri

    FulwellBri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2019
    Messages:
    1,323
    Likes Received:
    985
    Wish I could be so optimistic but the 2 of them dont inspire much.
    Wyke has been a bit of a sicknote tbh, and while he tries hard he doesnt really add much.
    Grigg's lost his bottle I think.
     
    #62
  3. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    16,939
    Likes Received:
    12,970
    There maybe a little hope for Grigg
    But I’m not sure about wyke he can’t even play football
     
    #63
  4. dred

    dred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    840
    Likes Received:
    1,206
    Will he come here? Will Peterborough let him go? Would we pay daft money and risk another Griggs?
     
    #64
  5. dred

    dred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    840
    Likes Received:
    1,206
    The two that played last night
     
    #65
  6. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    16,466
    Likes Received:
    21,508
    We need to get shot of Leadboots and Mcgeouch (both shyte), and recall Ethan Robson and sign another CM to replace them both.
    We also need another RB to become first choice and have McLaughlin as back up (Hopefully we wont need him), and a new striker aswell that can actually hit a barn door.
    Hopefully we can get rid off Grigg and bring 2 more in but i cant see anybody wanting him.
     
    #66
  7. BigPete

    BigPete Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2019
    Messages:
    2,802
    Likes Received:
    3,364
    Not much then mate <laugh>

    Wonder how much of the fund's we would be able to spend from that investment on players and stick within FFP?
     
    #67
  8. Nordic

    Nordic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    8,032
    Likes Received:
    6,078
    As with Tees....

    McGeogh has to go, Ross to sign him for an Edinburgh club hopefully. Bring in a new right back instead

    Leadboots as back-up and Robson brought back. ****ing shame Embleton got crocked.

    I think we're stuffed up front unless we can pull off another Altidore/Defoe type deal. I cannot see Posh selling Maddison - he's their best chance of promotion.
     
    #68
    clockstander likes this.
  9. Kittenmittons

    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2019
    Messages:
    2,004
    Likes Received:
    1,277
    Based on the numbers at first glance, it's all coming in as revenue we can use for FFP purposes. Of course, that means if its 10m, 6m extra in wages theoretically, but it's ludicrous to spend that much now.

    The good news is that because the accumulated losses have been cleared, we can port over cash reserves into the next season and they count towards FFP in that year. So if we bump the wage bill by a total of £1m now, we can theoretically spend the same for a good few years off the back of the same investment, assuming that everything else remained the same and we ported an ever decreasing amount of profit each season to the next.
     
    #69
    Smug in Boots likes this.
  10. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    16,927
    Likes Received:
    25,829
    I've said somewhere else, one option we have if Donald is really serious about promotion and we've got funds but not the wiggle room on the wage bill is to pay up contracts and get rid, assuming nobody takes them off our hands in the window. We could low key cut away quite a bit of dead wood and replace with quality in that case.

    If it's a tentative one in one out approach while we wait for bids then we'll probably end up going to the wire and not necessarily getting our first choices like when we signed Grigg.
     
    #70
    Charley Farley likes this.

  11. Kittenmittons

    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2019
    Messages:
    2,004
    Likes Received:
    1,277
    I wouldn't worry about FFP too much. They have lots of wiggle room for a few seasons, theoretically.
     
    #71
    Nacho likes this.
  12. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    16,927
    Likes Received:
    25,829
    Yeah I was just reading your post, that's good news. Still a good idea to keep it low and paying off a few contracts wouldn't be expensive but it's reassuring that we're no longer on a knife edge with the wages.
     
    #72
  13. Bank of England 2

    Bank of England 2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2019
    Messages:
    2,575
    Likes Received:
    6,824
    We definitely need a new Right Back. McLaughlin is not good enough, both defensively or going forward.
    Try to offload McGeouch to part fund this. Bring Robson back as a replacement for McGeouch.

    I don't think our strike force is as bad as some make out. In Wyke and Grigg's cases, they like the ball in early - we take ages to deliver from wide positions.
    With Le Bock returning, I would move Hume up the park. Like Watmore, he's pacy, and as Saturday showed, his delivery into the box is generally good.

    Lack of creativity is a big problem. Solve that in January and we'll sail home.
     
    #73
    smithy in nl likes this.
  14. Random lad

    Random lad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2019
    Messages:
    696
    Likes Received:
    1,124
    Wish I had your optimism.
     
    #74
  15. SAFCDRUM

    SAFCDRUM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,127
    Likes Received:
    16,227
    I'm the opposite mate. I thought the defence had improved this season (Peterborough game excepted). Not many clean sheets but many times only 1 per game let in. Its the forwards that concern me.
     
    #75
  16. sproates33

    sproates33 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2019
    Messages:
    216
    Likes Received:
    373
    Maddison, Gnanduilet & two loans please.
     
    #76
  17. Bank of England 2

    Bank of England 2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2019
    Messages:
    2,575
    Likes Received:
    6,824
    This bit, I would agree with mate.The defence as a whole seems to have tightened up since Parky's come in. Certainly Willis and Lynch are a big improvement on Baldwin and Flanagan. To me though, McLaughlin is clueless, prone to making a mistake and seems uncomfortable at overlapping. His delivery is not great either, which doesn't help our strikers. Any half decent left winger would have him on toast.
     
    #77
    Nacho likes this.
  18. Sandy Camel

    Sandy Camel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2019
    Messages:
    1,761
    Likes Received:
    3,838
    Hope we sign a few young, unknown talented lads that serve the dual purpose of firing us to promotion and sending the SMB into multi-meltdown. Be class that like.
     
    #78
  19. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    16,927
    Likes Received:
    25,829
    Agree about McLaughlin he's a poor crosser and generally looks like a deer in the headlights when he goes past the halfway line. He's decent on the ball and competent enough to be backup but no more for me.

    We could always try Hume at RB and De Bock at LB, I wouldn't suggest it but I've seen him have an excellent game there before.
     
    #79
  20. Bank of England 2

    Bank of England 2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2019
    Messages:
    2,575
    Likes Received:
    6,824
    I wouldn't suggest it either mate, but I know what you mean. Would prefer a new Right Back. To me, when a converted midfielder looks better at RB than your RB 'specialist', you're in trouble.We have good balance with Hume on the left. Although I'd try him further upfield and put De Bock in at Left Back.
     
    #80
    Nacho and clockstander like this.

Share This Page