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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    Another factor as well to take in Wills, is that it’s very easy after an incident for people who have never been in that kind of situation to point the finger of blame, having never felt the fear, the adrenaline and the panic that someone from the Emergency services has felt.
    Speaking from experience, mistakes can and will be made. We don’t make mistakes on purpose, it just sometimes happens in the heat of the moment......it’s how we learn from those mistakes as individuals that matters.....I have and will continue to do so till the day I leave.
     
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    Couldn't agree with you more, that's why i listen to experts and know that there is no evidence of correlation between vaccines and autism, I'm aware of climate change issues. All the credible experts agree on these too, yet the amount of people that dismiss these things are very worrying, I mean ffs one of the lead advocates of the anti vaccine is Jenny ****ing McCarthy, nice enough to look at but not someone I go to for medical advice!
     
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    Don’t like that Sky news format at all
    News night for me if I do watch any of the scriptures
     
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    Leamain. Why's it so difficult for the public to understand?
     
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    It’s a remarkably simple policy. It’s almost like the right wing media and self-proclaimed working class Tories want to pretend it’s not.
     
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    It's made entirely with the benefit of hindsight, Nines. It's not a criticism of the Fire Service. They do not have second sight. But knowing what we do now, an evacuation of the building at the earliest moment must surely have been the best option.
     
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    One for Ellers as I know he’s a fan.

     
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    Screenshot_20191107-111522.jpg
     
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  9. bobmid

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    Very simple policy indeed. Infact, I dont understand why it's an issue to the Tories anyway to be honest. If you're voting Tory then what's it matter? It's only relevant to those undecided or that are voting labour. I suppose it's just another story for the right wing media to attempt to trash the labour party yet again. Just concentrate on your own campaign and policies. How refreshing would that be!
     
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  10. GoldhawkRoad

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    Every Labour spokesperson starts the sentence with how simple it is. Then launches into verbal spaghetti
     
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    Typical right wing biased media. That's the Russians for ya!
     
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    As far as I'm aware the stay-put policy is still in place but is consistently re-evaluated. Read the article I'm going to post in response to Stainsey's post Kiwi.

    Here's the article mate and explains the dilemma that the fire and other emergency services were confronted with on that night ...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/grenfell-tower-fire-one-year-one-kensington-a8397276.html
     
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    It is very simple though. It genuinely doesn’t matter whatsoever if Corbyn, Starmer or anyone else backs Labour’s deal or Remain. May was an ardent Remainer. Boris was ready to be if it took his fancy.
     
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    Maybe with the benefit of hindsight, H&F council could have spent the money required to get the fire doors up to standard, which would have helped contain the blaze. Maybe they could have not cut corners and gone for the cheaper (although at the time legal) cladding, which would have prevented the fire from spreading. Maybe, with hindsight, JRM could have been more tactful in his wording? Maybe his pal could have been less of a **** in defending him?
     
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    Brexiteers absolute have to defend everything senior Brexiteers day. Everything.
     
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    Evacuating the building at the earliest moment ( I'm not sure how you define when that moment would've been? ) could've proved to be just as catastrophic.
     
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    That’s the one mate.......an excellent article that exposes a few myths.
    Thanks for posting.
     
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    Not sure if any of this guys stuff has been posted on here before.....

     
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    It seems to have escaped dullest-pencil-in-the-box-Abbott, that Ken Clarke is not recommending that people vote Labour.

    Ian Austin is recommending that people vote Conservative.

    See the difference, Diane?
     
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    I dont think that was her point Goldy to be fair
     
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