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Transfer Rumours FiFA Ban Cardiff from transfer Market

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  1. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Cardiff City face a three-window transfer ban if they fail to pay Nantes the first instalment of the £15m fee for striker Emiliano Sala.

    Sala, 28, died in a plane crash in January while travelling from France to join his new club.

    Fifa has released the full reasons for its September ruling ordering Cardiff to pay the first 6m euros (£5.3m).

    Cardiff will lodge an appeal against the decision in the next two weeks to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

    The Championship club have argued they were not liable for any of the fee because the Argentine was not officially their player when he died.

    The world governing body's players' status committee (PSC) ruled Cardiff must pay the sum "corresponding to the first instalment due" in the transfer agreement and rejected the Welsh club's arguments on a variety of grounds.

    The PSC report reveals Cardiff had sought to delay Fifa's judgement until possible civil and criminal proceedings, as well as an Air Accident Investigation Bureau investigation had been concluded.

    They also argued Nantes would be "liable" for damages to them over the fatal flight, which was booked by Willie McKay and his son Mark, who was employed by the French club, to find a buyer for the player.

    McKay has denied any involvement in the selection of the plane or pilot, Dave Ibbotson, whose body was never recovered.

    The committee report says: "The members of the Bureau decided not to take into account any arguments brought forward by Cardiff in front of Fifa in relation to the circumstances surrounding the tragic passing of the player."

    The PSC dismissed Cardiff's claim that Sala's employment with Nantes had not been terminated.

    And they also rejected Cardiff's contention the transfer was not fully completed, saying the Football Association of Wales had undertaken "all the necessary requirements" less than two hours before Sala's flight left Nantes.

    The report said: "The player's transfer from Nantes to Cardiff has to be considered as validly concluded between the parties, hence the player was a player of Cardiff."

    The PSC makes it clear this judgement relates only to the initial payment of the transfer fee and not to further instalments, which are due in January 2020 and January 2021.

    Cardiff were allowed 45 days from the moment Nantes provided them with bank details to pay the French club an initial £5.3m, plus interest accrued since January.

    The report also said: "The Bureau finds it regrettable that the dispute could not be settled amicably."

    Cardiff have refused to comment on exact details of the PSC findings, but have reiterated their intention to challenge the decision at the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

    BBC Wales Sport has learned the appeal has to be lodged in the next two weeks.

    The plane carrying Sala and pilot Ibbotson, 59, crashed in the English Channel on 21 January, two days after the player's transfer was announced.

    Sala was exposed to high levels of carbon monoxide prior to the crash, a report later revealed.

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  2. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Always a bluebird , never a bluebird.
     
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    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Pay up or face the consequences I say. All that bollox and out pouring of grief, bunch of two faced dicks.
     
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  4. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    What I find strange is that some think that the insurance will cover the costs , but if he wasn't their player than what insurance ?
     
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    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Plus would they have insured him? Easy mistake for them not to inform the insurance company. That may be why they won’t pay, he was not insured.
     
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    I dont think they should give up but i would pay the installments into a holding account if they are going to fight it out in court. To have FIFA take away their transfer windows is a huge blow that they cant afford to have and i would not say i was not going to pay.....By paying the installments on time into a holding account does not mean they agree with any decisions but shows willing and let the court decide who is right or wrong on this.......The winner of the case can then get the money paid into whoever s bank account....
     
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    But that is the whole point. Cardiff's insurance will not cover him if he is not one of ours. Nantes's will not cover him unless he is one of theirs. No insurance company wants to pay up so this will run and run till ownership is proven. And once one company has paid up, they will go after whoever is thought responsible for the loss. Aircraft company, organiser of the trip, pilot, agent(s)….there'll be a queue. Dai's idea of a holding account is interesting expect who is going to put the money in? No insurance compamyw ill let any of the companies involved put in since it might be construed as an admission.
     
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    Paying into a holding account is no way an admission. What it is is that you are willing to listen to the court and both sides put their case forward and whatever the court decides both parties abide by as final.....Cardiff dont want to go down the road saying they are not paying because you really dont want FIFA giving Cardiff an embargo of not using any transfer windows in the future...I personally hate FIFA interfering when two clubs have a dispute, That should be left to the courts as FIFA are punishing Cardiff and not the other club and that is not fair.....That's my humble opinion anyway..
     
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    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Its not a criminal but civil dispute , I don't know how Nantes can be liable perhaps you could explain
     
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    If you owe money and refuse to pay then that is a criminal act. It is also a civil dispute that needs court action but FiFA should not interfere and take away transfer rights for just Cardiff they should apply the same to Nantes while the dispute is going on. nobody knows who is right or wrong, So why just. punish Cardiff. That is not fair....
     
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    Its not
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    So i buy something off you and you gave me the item and when you ask for the money i say i'm not paying.....That is theft and a criminal act...
     
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    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Its a civil matter
     
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    Ha ha, couldn’t happen to a nicer club
     
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    But was it Dai’s idea ......
     
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    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Nantes sold cardiff the player , cardiff are refusing to pay so based on your logic cardiff are the guilty party which contradicts your statement as it being unfair ?
     
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    Should be banned from the planet let alone transfer windows the scum bastards
     
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    Dull Dai strikes again!..............<laugh>


    Fraud is a criminal offence, not paying your bill is not a criminal offence, it is a civil matter under the county court or high court, depending on the size of the bill, but it seems to me that this could well turn out to be another shameful stain on Kairdiff cloggers..........<ok>
     
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  20. swanseaandproud

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    Let's all borrow money and not pay it back if it is not a criminal offence to do so....Of course it is a criminal offence you idiots <doh>
     
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