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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Vincemac, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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  2. Jerry lee

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    never wanted it in the game, the F.A. will, of course, persist with it until it becomes a part of the match day experience and younger fans accept it as 'always being there'.

    my fears about it are being proven every single week, offside by an armpit, new laws to cover hand balls in the box that suddenly do not apply to certain players and certain teams, delays causing many minutes of added on time (or lost game time), refs not wanting to overturn a fellow refs call onfield refs not using the screens...it still seems that it *could* be a good idea but would rely on refs being man enough to admit they got something wrong/missed something...as for offside, have always said no player should be called offside if there is not a clear gap and if a player is in an offside position he is offside, none of this 'second passage of play' bollox.

    sometimes i think Sly would welcome a time when no one actually went to a game but we all watched it on television.
     
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    Sir John hall ( boooo ) said summat similar when sky first appeared
     
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  5. Nads

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    It’s a ****ing nightmare for your goals over 2.5 coupons.

    Especially in the Italian league. I ****ing hate it.
     
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  6. Jerry lee

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    Forget which game they had an actual monitor for the ref to look at certain Man Utd on Saturday but was never used

    What was the ****ing point
     
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  7. Nads

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    Aye it’s terrible mate. I genuinely thought we’d get ours right to preserve the status of the Premier League, but the cowardly and inconsistent use of it is far, far worse than mistakes.

    Haven't refereeing decisions always been part of the game anyway? Now they can hide behind some dickhead in a caravan hundreds of miles away who hasn’t the bollocks to make a decision.

    It’s ****e. The Italian and Spanish ones are painfully slow but they don’t shirk the decisions.

    Ours is slow, yet still manages to be selective. It’s appalling.
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

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    The offside law is a good law that goes back decades.

    It improved the game by preventing attackers waiting in the penalty area for a series of missiles from the back.

    The law is now being applied as a 'goal prevention' system which goes entirely against the spirit of the game.

    Offside decisions are being made by application of applied mathematics ...

    ... if, and when, a title winning match is decided by a freeze frame on a monitor it'll be the end of 'the beautiful game' as we know it.
     
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  9. Chunksafc

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    From what I have seen so far it seems they are that scared to make a mistake they are actually making more by going over and over decisions.

    The Ali handball is a prime example, they played it over and over with everyone waiting while the analysed every single thing in case they missed the slightest thing for fear of criticism.

    It needs to be quicker and also the Premier League needs to be clarify what its being used for and quickly.
     
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  10. Jerry lee

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    There not even following their own protocol

    The 2019/20 Premier League season will be the first to feature the Video Assistant Referee (VAR) after the clubs voted unanimously in November 2018 to introduce the system.

    All 380 Premier League fixtures will have a VAR, who is constantly monitoring the match but will be used only for "clear and obvious errors" or "serious missed incidents" in four match-changing situations:

    Goals
    Penalty decisions
    Direct red card incidents
    Mistaken identity

    The final decision will always be taken by the on-field referee.

    VAR will not achieve 100 per cent accuracy, but will positively influence decision-making and lead to more correct, and fairer, judgments.

    In the Premier League, there will be a high bar for VAR intervention on subjective decisions to maintain the pace and intensity of the matches.

    Factual decisions, such as offside or if a foul was committed inside or outside the penalty area, will not be subject to the "clear and obvious error" test.
     
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  11. Vincemac

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    Yeh and take the play back 6 or seven passes and award a free kick
    Then no goal
     
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  12. Danube

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    Should be scrapped.

    Only technology should be ball over the goal line and dangerous tackles / elbows etc that the ref missed (retro-red cards)
     
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    They have brought this var in and entirely missed the point
    There are only using it to prevent goals at al costs
     
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    Everything is scrutinised in the build up and any tiny inomalies is looked at
    For gods sake it bloody football match where things are not al, black and white
    There are a few grey areas
    It’s not a video games where you can rewind and change everything
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Cricket, Tennis and Rugby all use video etc to check on decisions without too much trouble.. how does the Premier League cock it up!
     
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    Thing is though

    Sports you've mentioned are much slower paced than football a 3 minute delay in the above sports is nothing

    In footy it's like an eternity
     
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    Cricket and tennis are games with constant breaks and indeterminate length ...

    ... VAR doesn't seem to combat all the handballs in rugby though.
     
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    Cricket, Tennis and Rugby are more black and white, football is very grey. Was always gonna happen.
     
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    And the number of times Ive seen referees give a goal when they boot it over the crossbar!????
     
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