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PNE v Leeds

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by LeedsLover, Oct 23, 2019.

  1. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    What type of game was it?

    Not much different to the Birmingham game, difference being PNE played better football and ran ragged in our midfield, that's nothing new this season, most teams are out playing us in midfield, and most teams are catching us on break and scoring.

    What the stats come down to (example) Leeds 18 shots 1 goal, opposing team 3 shots 1 goal. Not good enough.......it means we have a striker problem, and a midfield problem, and problems need to be sorted out and fixed.

    Our football is not up to the level of last season, yes we're missing Pablo, Forshaw, Cooper, but that shouldn't be a reason for others not being able to slot straight in and play the football we know we can play.

    We should've won this game at least 2-0 despite how well PNE played. Are we getting back into the mode of only being good enough to play catch up, or scrape wins 1-0 occasionally; certainly seems like it. Or could it be our bad patch coming around early...........We'll have to wait and see.

    The sync has gone out of our passing, it's not free flowing any more, it's scrappy and messy and plenty of passes are not finding their targets.

    As I've said previously, I think Klich has taken on, or been told to take on the role of playmaker while Pablo is injured, it would certainly answer why he's not in a more attacking role.

    Bamford needs effing off, that's becoming more apparent with fans comments. Watch the wainmanjoe video, read the comments in side panel.

    Harrison, he's not the standard we need on our left side despite crossing for the Nikita goal, it certainly doesn't make him a super star as some would like to think. He also gets mentioned in wainmanjoes side comments, so I'm not on my own regarding Bamford and Harrison.

    Phillips, always a nice friendly debate on him.

    When you watch the highlights, some were quick to jump in and blame Berardi, can't see why, and here's why.

    1, It was a good pass by the PNE player.

    2, Look at the gap between White and Berardi, where was Ayling and our CM Phillips covering that gap.

    3, look at the big hole in our midfield, it's massive, where was Ayling and Phillips

    4, Why was Phillips on the left side out of position when he should've been around the centre plugging the hole in midfield that he obviously couldn't see. It's called reading the game.

    Make excuses for Phillips and Ayling all you like, fact is, they weren't where they should've been doing the job they should've been. We were caught on the break cos players were caught out of position, that's what a break is, and teams take advantage of it.

    5, White and Berardi were put under pressure by players being caught out of position, especially White who had to make a decision to leave one player unmarked to try and stop another, because some players were caught out of position and not there to help out the defence incase of a quick break. Obviously Ayling and Phillips weren't reading the game too well.

    Bielsa should never have took Dallas out the RB spot, if it ain't broke don't change it.

    I've said many times, Ayling goes too far forward and struggles to get back, and Phillips gets caught out of position.

    Say what you like, and I've said it a few times, if you want promotion you can't keep making excuses for certain players, you can't wrap'em up in cotton wool, doesn't matter who they are.

    Those who obsessed with trying to demean and belittle me, keep trying, you ain't there yet.

    I've been a big critic of Bamfords all season, now some on here are starting to say similar things, so are fans on wainmanjoes video.

    If Bielsa doesn't wake up soon to the cogs that ain't working properly, the fans will turn on him, why, cos they want promotion, not a stubborn coach.

    Enjoy.

    3 min highlights.......shows the PNE goal from side.


    Fans eye view shows PNE goal from behind.

    Fans eye view of game


    Bielsa post PNE game


    Alioski hits nail on head in his post match interview.


    Wainmanjoe, includes comments before and during game.
     
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  2. Whitejock

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    Gessa Well-Known Member

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    Will the inane babbling never stop.
     
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  4. ristac

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    The reason for the huge gap in midfield, we were attacking, Alioski might as well have passed the ball to the PNE player, it was terrible play on his part and just unfortunate. The entire team we’re guilty of not controlling possession.
     
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  5. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    The problem is not the odd goal we concede in every two or three games, it’s at the other end of the field. Saturdays team selection will be a fair indication of Bielsa ability to modify his one style fits all approach
     
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  6. ristac

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    Bielsa is a genius but a very stubborn one. He has enjoyed showing us all how wrong we were by transforming everything we knew or thought we did with the players we had. We the fans all demanded Izzy should be played last season and it was either a stubborn stance by Bielsa or a lack of commitment by Izzy on the training ground that kept him out.

    Maybe we should all demand Bamford continues and we start a send Nketiah home campaign, it might kick Bielsa into the prove us wrong mode. Yes I wrote that last line in jest but for all his genius approach there is a stubborn side that seems to hinder us a little but then on the other hand should we not give him credit for the inspired substitutions?

    Another point we shouldn’t fail to acknowledge, Alex Neil is an exceptional coach with oodles of experience at this level, when Bielsa does leave (I hope it’s not soon) I’d certainly welcome Neil as his replacement
     
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  7. Eric Le Merde

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    Somebody has asked this already but assuming, for a moment, that KP is worse than.........well everybody who has ever kicked a football. Who would you get to step into that DM role? Firstly now, as we cannot recruit anybody else and secondly, assuming that you don't rate anybody we currently have, in January. We obviously wouldn't have any money to purchase an expensive replacement as KP isn't worth a cent. I'm curious to know who you rate in this sort of position as this is the team we have, they play this way and we need a pivotal DM.
     
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  8. Eireleeds1

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    There will be a big clear out at end of season <ok>
     
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    Eric, you must have missed the various lengthy diatribes extolling the virtues of Forshaw playing DM. Apparently we don't need the 4 behind him, and he'll score an average 5 goals a match. Bloody Bielsa doesn't listen to Captain Jackboot though, so it's all his fault too. <doh>
     
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    Hopefully because we’re in the PL ;) <ok>
     
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    Hopefully but odds aren't shortening I suspect yet
     
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  12. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    Seems as though I do have some good fortune after all <cheers>
     
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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  14. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    It's quite alright to disagree with each other and discuss the relative merits of players, hey they're not all perfect, but seriously just spouting the same negative views isn't really a discussion, it's just nonsense. Could this player or that player do better, did they have a bad game are they lacking confidence etc are all valid points. I would even go so far as to say sometimes they play crap. KP however is viewed by independent assessors as our best player, he regularly is seen as MotM by people who go to matches and my own view, for what it's worth, is also that he is one of our best. Sure he has bad days, who doesn't but.....

    I've probably said enough.

    Seriously LL why are your views so far away from the majority of Leeds fans and independent observers? What am I missing? I wont speak for others I just personally don't understand why you have such a negative view.
     
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  15. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    From this mornings match

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    Leeds lover will ignore your post and just resume his insane rantings. He is to a tee what the word tosser was invented for. Kalvin phillips is exposed because of bielsas tactics. Of course they run past him hes on his bloody own.
     
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    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    To be honest I ignore him too, so it's only fair really.
     
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