Fantastic way to look at it and also just as valid of a reason for going as the reasons people like kempton etc don't go.
Geographically I can’t attend games anymore and I do really miss Saturday’s and football. Does that mean I am not a City supporter now. I don’t think so as I still follow the Club, listen to the results, watch on the web etc and to be honest read everything I can every day. If someone doesn’t go to the games now because they don’t want to for whatever the reason then that is their choice and should be respected. I don’t believe that there are many on here who would just switch to supporting another club. The Allams are only doing what they are doing because they can see the end of the cash cow now. I get they want their money back and the gift to the City was just bullshit. Having seen how they have behaved in the years since the purchase we should all be able to see that. We don’t need to get on anyone’s back because they don’t want to go but I don’t believe for a minute that they are still not true supporters. Get on the back of all the twats wearing Liverpool shirts or those who have switched to the current premiership golden boys. They deserve it, we don’t.
I think you describe some of the complexities here, whereas some others have been more reductionist or just simplistic. I also think you make an excellent and very human point – something that can also be applied to a whole number of scenarios in life and society, especially where someone attempts to lead a normal life with a sense of right and wrong - but in the minefield of a vastly unequal society such as ours. I hope your lad loves it and continues to love it.
He does and he’s totally hooked. He wants to attend his first away game very soon. He was at the play off final at Wembley v AFC Massive but he claims that doesn’t count
Brilliant. Takes me back to my first game, seeing the pitch for the first time, the crowd, the smell of smoke and booze in the air - BP seemed like Wembley to me. Ace.
I live by the mantra now, Do what you want to do, be what you are, and don’t let anyone else tell you what to do. As long as you are not hurting someone else by doing it you will be ok. You should go or not go for your own reasons and not someone else’s.
I don't see how you can just switch to another club at the click of your fingers neither ! That is a bit of a silly thing to suggest
Of course principles come into it. Principles are an individual thing. What’s good for one person isn’t for another. That doesn’t mean what one person holds up as an important principle is either right or wrong. The moral is that you stay true to your individual principles, as best you can.
Sometimes principles get disregarded as there are more important things in play. For me anyway, as outlined in my previous post.
And yet people do it. Ten years ago there was no one in a Man City shirt and now they are everywhere. Man City are the new Man Utd. People like success and want to be associated with it. Hence when we were doing well in the Premiership there were lots more kids wearing City shirts. It’s not silly more like fact. There is a great deal of sadness in this fantastic opportunity we had to establish ourselves as a success. I don’t think it’s just measured in relegation or promotion but one certainly does reflect the amount who will be interested in remaining in a City shirt.
A bit strong? He's accusing people of choosing another club ffs. How strong an insult can you get? Having said that, I believe Steve is the good man who gave the ****er sign to Ehab on the way back from an away game, didn't Ehab try to cut him off? So respect for that
As I have said previously I coach kids Sunday league football. There are 24 kids approximately and up until 2 years ago there were 10-12 that would turn up to training in Hull City kits. Now there’s 1 - my lad. The rest turn up in Man City/Liverpool/Man Utd kits. As a professional league club Hull City have spectacularly failed to hold onto a generation of supporters. They are very unlikely to get that back. Looking at the bigger picture I’d probably say my experience is a fair reflection of most of the Sunday leagues. It’s certainly what I see. Occasional kids for a quid activity or reduced ticket prices inviting schools to matches etc would I’m sure have maintained a decent percentage of that support.
That’s what makes them individual. For me, at the moment, there isn’t. Doesn’t make me right or you wrong or tuther way round. It’s what’s right for the individual, but principles all the same. Something may crop up again to make me attend a game (last one was the Villa game when there was applause for Geo’s lad, it was also my lads birthday. My principles were trumped by more important things that day, it happens). If my lad was younger I may still be going, I’ve encouraged others to do so when they’ve been trying to decide.
He's not accusing anyone though is he Kemps, he simply stated that some people have chosen other clubs which is true, I know a few lads who have stopped going to City and now go to watch Hull fc, Im sure there's many more that have switched to the Rugby. Adam Pearson and Neil Hudgell should be thanking the Allams.
