Match Day Thread Spurs vs South4mpt0n 28/09/19 KO 3pm

I am offended on my own behalf. It is a question of common decency. I also find the hypocrisy of someone saying they find being offended on someone else's behalf being offended on someone else's behalf a little disappointing.

 

Let me just enlarge on my point. I don't mi d you stating that my point irritated you. You are giving an opinion and saying something about yourself. If you had said that I was uptight because of mystatement, I would take issue with that because you are making assumptions about the person making the statement without enough data to go on. It is a sad fa that all too many comments respond to a perceived flaw in the poster and not a flaw in their argument. We are all better than that.

Anyway, you imply my dismay in this state of affairs is faux, as I am simply annoyed for another, but I work in this field and it is a genuine element of our society I dislike. It is what empowers the Borises and the Trumps. It is what makes Brexit work.

I guess it is okay here, too.

 

Sorry precious, I really did not mean to offend you.
Backs away slowly.....

 

Why not try to respond to what I said rather than insult me?

 

What is it you do?

 

I'm going to have a guess.
I reckon he's quite high up in his profession.
At his most productive in the winter months.
But hates being back down to earth, because he's a bit of a melt.

Professional snowflake. I am I right?

 

I don’t think that’s helping.

 

I disagree. He'll be on here later player the victim, and my post will empower.
Just doing my bit.

 

Ok Precious. Let me get you to understand. When you are trailing vs 10 men of Spurs under no circumstances do you need 3 centre halves on the park. The general philosophy in football is to try and outnumber the attackers by 1 centre half overall. Hence a back 4 vs 3 forward, a back 3 vs 2 forwards being used by teams that can play both systems excellently. Juventus and Italy for example have been known to adapt system based on opponent under certain managers. Plenty play 1 up front in the Prem. The ones that master 3 vs 1 attacker massively squeeze up the park with the left and right CB's plus WBs when required or are just parking the bus vs a better side.

Kane has next to no pace. 11 vs 10 I'm happy to just leave Bednarek on him, get the others to deal with Son or anyone with pace and go for it. I certainly don't find 3 centre halves plus Romeu acceptable.

In terms of "games" sorry but I don't play games - I watch and play real football. The fact you brought it up suggest to me you're the FM boy here, not me. If you want 10 men camping in their half and 3 of them being centre halves and one being Romeu that's your problem. We would have been more dangerous with 2 centre halves and an attacker on instead of Romeu.

Fact is HR can look after himself. He seems a good and honest poster. Doesn't need your emotional support.

Hassenhuttl tends to be decent enough tactically, at least was before he lost his assistant. What you don't seem to realise is there isn't a set tactic vs all opponents. Hassenhuttl tends to tinker and adjust depending on how the opponent likes to play. That's what I've liked about him until now as the problem is against Spurs he either left his brain at home or didn't realise they had 10 men on the park until 10 minutes were left.

Obviously we don't have the likes of Maldini at the back, we are a bottom half side. He doesn't want to set up the same every time as we are on the whole a weakish side that needs to try to stay unpredictable and ahead of the game tactically if possible.

 

Hey fair enough mate. Rather than trying to argue with my posts from a football point of view he spouted some real bollocks. I suspect he doesn't understand the tactic side of football so tends to get personal instead. The avi says a lot about a person I feel. He may be depressed, in which case I hope he gets better and happier. But I'm not willing to read nonsense from him under any circumstance tbh. Not getting personal. I just think people are getting offended on behalf of Hassenhuttl here. He's a stubborn confident character a few words on the forum isn't going to

A. Upset Hassenhuttl.
B. Get him sacked. No one with power at the club cares about this site.

I'm here to talk football, not get personal..happier everyone is as a poster the more football I get to talk on it without people getting offended or personal.

I think part and parcel of managing at this level is accepting your resources will never be as good as you want them to be. Even for Pep. But against Spurs he actually underestimated our defence and set up too cautiously for the bulk of the game. To be honest I don't think Vestegaard, Yoshi and Bednarek are bad football players. Bednarek is a good player, Yoshida has done a great job over the years. Vestegaard is an enigma and you have to be careful when slotting him in you don't leave yourself exposed. Don't like Stephens. Don't think our team is horrible depth wise, not great though obviously. There's enough there to finish up to above 8th with a perfect-ish season and hopefully the quality in the team/squad should always be enough to stay up for the foreseeable future.

 

Bit like getting offended on Hassenhuttl's behalf though isn't it. I don't think you did, you kept it civil enough. Archers Road did though.

FYI for the mods I'm being down to earth and civil here. I'm always fair. It's just a football forum. Sometimes it's good to rock the boat a bit otherwise we just end up being avis on a forum instead of people.

 

'He may be depressed'


Cos that ain't personal at all is it? Silly ****.

 

I'm just shocked that Fats isn't the centre of the argument. Should I text him? He'll be pissed to miss it

 

Perhaps I am a little protective of Ralph. I honestly feel the bigger picture is sorting the squad than finishing 11th, so he has a fair bit of leeway. If we are in the bottom three by Xmas, then I'll have some serious thinking to do. I still believe in what he is doing, and think he'll steer us right. Spurs was a missed opportunity, but hopefully one that helps us progress.

 

Right, so when you said "Hasenhutl was tactically clueless", what you actually meant was, he could have subbed Vestergaard for Armstrong sooner than he did? In which case the obvious question, given the benefit of hindsight, is did we create any more chances after he made that change?

As for Romeu, there's a lot more to his game than just sitting in front of the defence. I don't see how you classify his presence on the pitch as being a sign of negativity.

Never played FM in my life btw.

 

Ooh this is good. Its ridiculous to try defending Ralph's defensive decisions in the last two games but its more ridiculous to write off everything he has done since he arrived at the club. He's absolutely the best manager we have had in years, he has re-invigorated the on field play, turned our toothless attack into something resembling a threat and I like him, a lot.

He hasn't got a magic wand for the defence. He's trying to find a solution to the jigsaw, but if you ask me at the moment he is trying to make up his own picture rather than the one on the box and he doesn't have the bits he thinks he has. (can we please have a metaphor competition at the end of the season, I'd like to enter)

Give the boss his due, he tried a couple of things in the last two games that havent worked out. At the same time he tried dropping Vesty - needed to happen and he brought back Bertrand - needed to happen. It's painfully obvious that we fans don't have all the info, Valery being dropped is a mystery, Bertie on the bench obviously had something going on. He's managing a team, that means he has to use his position to exert control in the dressing room.

 

My opinion is that this season Hojbjerg and Romeu are not a good pairing. Romeu particularly is very good at killing off our forward moves in favor of sideways play. Redders has lost the edge that he had last season as well and particularly against Spurs was making some poor decisions. He wi ll be losing his spot to Djenepo and Boof before too long - you mark my words!

 

Will you read all these posts back later and have the decency to maybe see how unnecessarily rude they are?

Please point out some evidence to back up your idea I am playing the victim. I would like people to be nicer to each other. Sorry that you find that so offensive.

 

We haven't seen the best of PEH so far this season, not sure why. Not sure the pairing with Romeu is the reason though. I don't see Romeu slowing down our attacks, he seems to launch quite a few of them. You need someone in the midfield who can tackle, but he looks to play the through ball often enough when it's on.

Redders is at his best when he is willing to try things; sometimes it comes off, sometimes it doesn't. I wouldn't criticise his decision making personally, I think he needs the freedom to gamble and get things wrong. There'll be plenty of opportunities for him, Boufal and Djenepo, though not all on the pitch at the same time.

Everything just needs to click really. Hopefully it will, soon.