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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    There's none so blind, as those who will not see
     
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  2. BobbyD

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    Would like a deal but if the mps keep voting down any deal returned then it. Should be no deal to keep the referendum result.

    Ideally they would count which people voted down the deal and whichever side had more mps voting down the deal, we would do the opposite (no deal or remain).

    P.s. i didnt vote
     
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  3. Willhoops

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    Re Jo Cox she was murdered by a right wing nutter who saw her actions as traitorous and the likes, language that the Tory's, Nige and the like have used and still do. Was the Prime minister right to have a total guess what a person who was opposing what the conservatives are trying to do? I'd say no, I'd also question his motivations as to why he did. Anything else including her husband being a **** has **** all to do with it and again is a pure distraction attempt to move the conversation away from the point of Boris yet again being out of order. Why are all the conversations being moved away from the main original points? I'd suggest it's because if you analyse and discus reasonably the points being made, certainly in this case Boris's actions are undefendable
     
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  4. BobbyD

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    Sorry strolls but even though boris is a big turd you cant be criticising a few words by him and totally overlooking the misdemeanors of your own side.

    In any case your whole interpretation of surrender bill inciting violence seems way off.
     
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  5. Goldhawk-Road

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    The Labour Party theme tune:

    Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,


    We’ll keep the red flag flying here.

     
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  6. Turkish" Premier" Hoops

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    Are you really that dumb, look at what you wrote, look AGAIN at my reply to your nonsensical quote, I asked you to differentiate between “UNLAWFUL” And “ BROKE THE LAW” you gave me an answer, in your answer you said there is a difference albeit it slight, but in law as you know it either is or it isn’t, now look again and again and yet again at what was said by both of us and if you cannot work out where your going wrong , give up.
    As to your second point I am not a lawyer but have had several dealings within the law, secondly watch the news Boris did what he did because on legal advise from the attorney general he was told he could prorogue parliament unfortunately for him 11 pro EU remain judges found against him in the Supreme Court, so you tell me was the attorney general wrong or was the Supreme Court biased, let me know as you seem to know everything else.
     
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  7. Stroller

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    I really do struggle to be understood on here, it seems. I'll try again...

    I don't overlook misdemeanors from my own side, I acknowledge them and deplore them. The difference here is that this is a deliberate, coordinated campaign of inflammatory language calculated to incite anger, or worse, against MPs who are opposed to No Deal. It's coming from the Prime Minister, for ****'s sake, not a few party activists.
     
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  8. colognehornet

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    It appears to be you who are claiming to 'know everything here', in as much as you claim to know more about the law than the supreme court of the UK. It doesn't matter whether you classify something as unlawfull or against the law or illegal - the result is the same 'you can't do it' ! Boris thinks he can - so he is wanting to place himself above the law - is that clear enough ?
     
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  10. BobbyD

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    You are saying its a coordinated campaign of inflammatory language. Admittedly i haven't been following to tightly but a surrender bill isn't exactly that inflammatory imo.

    Calling people traitors etc i agree is crossing the line but I'm sure you have never called farage (or whoever used it) as it's not from the pm or the establishment.

    The point is i don't think you ever point out any of the lefts misdemeanors in similar circumstances and instead gloss over them. Even in this brief discussion theres always a reason to say why its worse. It was only a few individuals, Its the pm compared to an mp, its a campaign of violent language vs it being just an emotional response.

    Just my opinion
     
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  11. bobmid

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    I'm a traitor, I've betrayed my country for not wanting to leave the EU. I've betrayed everyone who wants things to not be any better for 50 years! I've betrayed everyone who wants that 'bumpy road'.
    I'm surrendering to the EU although they havent actually forced me to do anything. I'm a massive traitor to this country!
     
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    ^^^^
    lacking Dunkirk spirit <laugh>
     
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    String him up, string him up, string him up <whistle>

    Nah you said you would accept mays deal. That's the best outcome for the uk
     
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    I give up.
     
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    Surrendering?
     
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    I put a smiley emoji after that comment but it didn’t turn up
     
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    It's cool, I'm not one of those that needs emojis to help me understand something.
     
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    I'm a traitor for not wanting no deal. I would block it aswell if I could. May's deal was crap and would have made us stay in with less say on anything. Why would anyone anywhere want that! I'm a traitor!!!
     
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    I love QPR but I'm a traitor. What do I do? Help me not be a traitor.
     
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    Never give up mate!
     
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