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Villa vs Toon - My thoughts on the game

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Heavy Metal Toon, Sep 17, 2011.

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  1. Well, we could have won and probably deserved to but we made some silly mistakes and Villa could have taken advantage.

    I'm actually over the moon with a point tbh, and even more so at the performance. Cabaye was ****ing unbelievable today, and is already getting the hang of the league. Tiote was great and back to his usual self.

    Obertan, despite lacking a final ball, seems a little bit more confident because he was beating more players than usual.

    Ratings -

    Krul - 7 - Didn't have to do much, but made some great challenges/punches when we needed.

    Simmo - 6 - Not great but at least he hasn't gone back to his form in the first 3 games.

    Saylor - 7 - Overall performance was good but made some sloppy errors. Still not to worry.

    Colo - 7 - Not his best performance, but still pretty good.

    Raylor - 6.5 - Some ****e control and **** play at times, but fair play to him, he put in some cracking balls into the box, and did some decent attacking.

    Obertan - 6.5 - Lacked a final ball, but some decent link up play and he's getting more confidence after each match. Not his best performance but a decent one.

    Cabaye - 9 - Man of the match easily. His shooting is ****ing orgasmic. Can't believe he hasn't got a goal yet he must have shot on target about 15 times of the course of 5 games and hit the target each time.

    Tiote - 8 - Not the perfect performance, but his form seems to be returning. Much better today, much better control and dribbling, a ****ing fantastic ball to assist Best. Good performance.

    Jonas - 6.5 - Not his best. Some decent attacking play but most of his crosses were ****e. But still, some decent passing, and threatened at times.

    Best - 7 - Good goal, and good link up play with Ba. Ba and Best make a good upfront pair. I hope for ****s sake that Pardew realizes that Shola ****s us over big time upfront.

    Ba - 7 - Good performance, good link up play with Best.

    Shola - 0

    Marv - 7 - He's looked fantastic every time he plays. Great passing, fantastic pace, decent dribbling. He deserves more time.

    Sammy - 11 - The goal that never was should have been allowed <cool> But seriously, i'd give him a 6.5 for some decent impact play.

    MOTM - Cabaye. His vision is just outstanding, and his shooting is awesome. Lets hope for more of this.

    Overall - Just shows how great of a team we are when we stop playing ****ing hoofball with ****ing Shola, and start playing good, flowing, passing footy. Ba and Best = goals, Shola upfront = ****.

    HWTL

    Praise Tiote for returning, and Ba for a good performance. Just shows what a difference not being in the ramadan makes, they both looked much more sharp and energetic.
     
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  2. Sir Bobby

    Sir Bobby Active Member

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    I'd give
    Saylor - 6.5
    Obertan - 6

    Other than that exactly the same <ok>
     
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  3. Why Saylor 6.5? He was good apart from a couple of sloppy mistakes.
     
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  4. Jonnyaiston

    Jonnyaiston Well-Known Member

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    This.

    I would say 6.5 because of the sloppy mistakes.

    Obertan is still scared to take on his man, unless playing a 1-2 with someone though. Lazy chasing back again which really pisses me off. But overrall an OK performance. Would replace him with Marv.
     
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    Sammy's 'goal' was class <laugh>
     
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  6. I'm sorry but a couple of mistakes shouldn't put him down that much. Colo was part of the reason we conceded the goal but i wouldn't give his overall performance lower than a 7
     
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  7. Sir Bobby

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    Tash, I think you start with unrealistically high ratings for some players. For example, Saylor could have an average game and you'd give him 7.5/8. An average game is a 6 in most people's eyes. He was pretty average today. Made a few mistakes but covered himself fairly well
     
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  8. Beatski

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    don't understand why an average game isnt a 5 though
     
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  9. On second though you're right to an extent, but i wouldn't give him less than a 7 though.
     
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  10. East Stand

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    I think he rates his own articles too highly himself too! <laugh>
     
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  11. I think others rate them too low when they give 1 stars just for the **** of it also <ok>
     
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    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Simmo wasn't our worst player either - thought he was better than both Taylors, even Colo wasn't at his best.
     
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  13. East Stand

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    Oooo scandalous! I think the 'others' are shocking doing that!
     
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  14. Sanchin0

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    My personal ratings :

    Krul 6 - Decent performance but nothing special.
    Simpson 6 - OK, that's about it. Same as Krul.
    Saylor 6 - Made a couple of errors but was steady enough.
    Colo 6 - Not one of his best games...
    Raylor 7 - Impressed with his defensive display today and his attacking display wasn't that bad either.
    Obertan 6 - Hot and cold.. mostly cold for me today.
    Tiote 7 - Yeah.. Tiote is back! AND he didn't pick up his usual yellow card!
    Cabaye 9 - Outstanding overall performance. Excellent passing, vision, creativity, skill and shooting.. already looking like a complete bargain!
    Guti 6 - Average.. same as Obertan IMO
    Ba 7 - His best game in a Toon shirt! Looked lively and was a threat.
    Best 6 - Not his best game but popped up with the goal which was crucial! Him and Ba as a partnership has potential that's for sure <ok>

    Subs :

    Marvo 7 - Looked good.. lovely passing!
    Sammy - N/A didn't have that much time to make a impact..
    Shola 0 - Why is he still at the club.. let alone the bench? :S
     
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  15. Sir Bobby

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    I know. It's rare to see a 5 or lower in the ratings in a paper, but really there should be 4 or 5 (for both teams) like that for every average game. Also there's the question, do you rate it on the player's ability or on an average footballer's ability?
     
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  16. East Stand

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    You rate on the player's ability, otherwise it would be depressing looking at the north conference league match ratings and seeing all 3/4 player rating.
     
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  17. Rafa's Championship Party

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    Given was man of the match for me today, we deserved to win, how we were behind at half time was a crime. Definitely our best performance of the season.
    Krul 6 Not a lot to do may have been at fault for the goal.
    Simpson 6 One or two positional problems, but in the main coped with N'Zogbia.
    R.Taylor 5 Felt they could have got in down our left, looked a weakness.
    S.Taylor 7 Didn't do alot wrong couldn't risk it with the clearance when it was probably going wide.
    Coloccini 7 Queitly went about his business
    Obertan 5 Yet to convince me.
    Tiote 7 Played better, still better to come.
    Cabaye 8 Best player for Newcastle today, brilliant effort towards the end.
    Gutierrez 5 Not at his best looks a bit to 1 dimensional for me.
    Ba 6 Hit and miss.
    Best 7 Did well for the goal, didn't really do anything wrong.

    Subs
    Shola 5 Quiet, didn't do alot.
    Marveaux 5 Same as Shola, would prefer to see him in for Obertan or Gutierrez.
    Sammy 6 Looked positive when he came on, looks a better player than Shola already.
     
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  18. steviemac14

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    I would go-

    Krul 6
    Simo 6
    Saylor 5
    Colo 7
    Raylor 5
    Obertan 7
    Tiote 6
    Cabaye 9
    Jonas 6
    Ba 7
    Best 7
     
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  19. That's far too harsh on Saylor. Two sloppy errors all game and he gets 5? ffs <doh>

    He was solid apart from them two moments. No way was Colo better than him.
     
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  20. AH

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    Sammy gets a 15 for his WRONGLY DISALLOWED goal alone <whistle>

    Nothing else is important.
     
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