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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    No apology needed mate......we’ve all said things that we regret, me especially.

    All good.
     
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  2. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Jack Montgomery‏Verified account@JackBMontgomery Sep 11
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    Lord Carloway, the Scots judge who made what some believe was a politically-motivated judgement against prorogation and, by extension, #Brexit today, is currently fighting plans for judges to declare their vested interests on a register tooth and nail.
     
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  3. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Interesting post, Kiwi. What's your view on this one? Was his judgment politically motivated, or is this just some more pathetic ****-stirring by desperate far-right ****ers?
     
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  4. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    probably both
     
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  5. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    hes found the yellow hammer
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    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Seriously, I'd really like to know where you found that and what made you want to post it on here.
     
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  7. Quite Possibly Raving

    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    This for me too. To be pedantic, I still don't think we *should* leave, but understand that leaving with May's deal is the most pragmatic and constructive way out of the current mess.

    I'd also add that I have zero sympathy with the argument that we must leave at any cost i.e. no deal.
     
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    Yeah I’ll trust Ashcroft’s studies over the “dozens” you know.
     
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  9. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    how many legal challenges are there out there all over the uk
    whens the welsh one
    whos funding them all

    LBC Breaking‏Verified account@lbcbreaking 13h13 hours ago
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    A legal challenge in Belfast High Court that argued the Government's Brexit strategy will damage the Northern Ireland peace process has been dismissed.
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    James O’Brien right now on @lbc “there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that #yellowhamner is a ‘worst case scenario’ document”

    Here, from today’s Times, is an excerpt from the #yellowhamner report
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  12. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    what is the worst case scenario
    what is the worst that could actually happen
    other than a corbyn govt which could take years to fix
     
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    I dont think anyone could or would be as disastrous as what we already have in the shape of Boris.
    I cut and pasted that from an article written by Johnsons office
     
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    That was the renamed version, they renamed it from 'base scenario' prior to releasing to the public.
     
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    It's fine. We can totally trust this government.
     
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  16. kiwiqpr

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    Anyone started stockpiling pasta yet
     
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    The Guardian said their original story was incorrect. They reported later it was something about leaving without a deal that the NI judges found legal. The matter of whether the Prorogation was legal or not was deferred to the Supreme Court in London for consideration with the other legal cases.
     
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    Yes, our once great manufacturing prowess has waned, partly to make way for a very profitable services industry. If we have a bridge to build, I'd look to Chinese know-how since they have already done great things in this area. There is expertise among European countries of course, but on an EU health issue, take a look at what the European Central Bank is doing, bringing back quantitative easing ie printing money, to stave off impending recession in the Eurozone.
     
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    Please quote the reference from the Scottish judges where they state he lied. They say he acted unlawfully. That is different. Even Joanna Cherry who was interviewed outside the court post judgement and was asked this, refused to say he lied.
     
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    The problem is, Dan, if we'd done that, we'd have immediately given the EU huge leverage against us in the free trade deal talks, because they would know that without the new deal, the UK would be imprisoned where it didn't want to be, inside the Customs Union as a result of the Irish backstop, with its severe restrictions on the UK to make its own free trade deals with countries worldwide. The backstop can never be acceptable - I'm encouraged by the creative thinking by the DUP that might lead to an Ireland-only solution to this problem.
     
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