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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    To say nothing of the undecidedminges
     
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  2. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    Actually I think this could be correct but although I quote business things I know it won’t ever affect the normal person in the UK
    I simply trust the EU running things that I do the UK You could throw £9Bn at the NHS and it still will be short plus when we do things like HS2 that ends up going £Bns over budget and won’t work if it rains
     
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  3. QPR Oslo

    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

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    You have got some good judges up there Steel, have just read their legal opinions. Spot on.
     
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  4. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    That’s the magic of Tinder
     
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  5. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Jack Montgomery‏Verified account@JackBMontgomery Sep 10
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    Knighthood,
    cushy job with a Remain-funding mega bank
    – all Olly Robbins is missing now is the EU passport he requested from Verhofstadt.
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  6. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Interesting that this had been virtually ignored by the BBC, anyway that's 2-1 to Boris at present, can't wait for the next thrilling instalment...:emoticon-0113-sleep

     
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  7. Stroller

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    As you know, I'm a Remain voter who would have accepted May's deal just to move things on and to avoid ending up with no deal at all. I was also encouraged by the recent suggestion of a NI only backstop and would have supported that approach, too. I'm sure there would be many like-minded Remainers.

    What we find now, though, is that Leave fanatics, smelling blood, won't accept anything but a 'clean break' (as Farage describes it), or a chaotic, possibly disastrous, no deal cliff-edge as most realists understand it to be. Compromise won't be contemplated.

    So yes, these people can go **** themselves.
     
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  8. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    Unless they are QPR supporters then as brothers we have to at least try and help them. We only have three No Dealers on here last count and they all seem good people to me
     
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  9. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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  10. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Both this court and the High Court in England decided that this was a political matter and not something for judges to decide upon. That's not the same as backing Johnson, as he has claimed. The Scottish court was plain in deciding that he had lied.
     
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  11. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    A minge always makes its mind up eventually!
     
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  12. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    re edecation camps for the 17.4 million
    or whats left alive of them anyway
     
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  13. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Of course he lied, they all do. It's still a political matter...
     
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  14. DT’s Socks

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    Nope I fully understand why it was 17.4m in fact I have always respected why but today we know a lot more if 17.4m or more voted that again then I would leave the country ...oh I already have

    Nationalism whipped it up from a bygone age imo. Any sane person can see today what a farce it always was and I genuinely care about life after Brexit especially for those who have no options
     
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  15. DT’s Socks

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    It’s a ecumenical matter
     
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  16. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    Not true. Didn't say he lied. Said advice to Queen to prorogue was unlawful
     
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  17. Stroller

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    They said that the prorogation was intended to 'stymie' parliament. Johnson said otherwise. They decided he lied, as of course he did.
     
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  18. I voted remain but think we should leave - but really don't want no deal at all. I'd have taken Mays deal like a shot as the real action will be when future partnership talks start. The EU won't be so united then and we could use that to our advantage.
     
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  19. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    Great answer.

    Thank you.
     
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  20. Frome-Ranger

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    I should apologise for my comment which was entirely inappropriate. I know the good folk on this board whether leave or remain, voted for what they genuinely think would be best for the country. I've probably spent too much time in the Remain echo chamber on social media and the frustration boiled over.

    In answer to your question I think securing a deal is absolutely the best way out of this mess as the referendum result can be respected whilst hopefully providing some much needed reassurances and security.

    I don't think I could ever respect plunging out with No Deal. Whether Yellowhammer is worst case scenario or not the fact that the things it lists are actual possibilities (however remote) just makes me think why/how can we take this risk? How can it be worth it? If it really comes down to No Deal I do think it should go back to the public.

    I want to be able to respect the referendum result and would absolutely do so if we get a deal. But I do not believe our government is now acting in our best interests so chances of deal seem remote to me.

    Any way thank **** the R's are back in action this weekend.
     
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