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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wed 11th Sept)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning. It's Wednesday 1th September, and here are the Leeds Utd headlines


    Moro opens up about his time at Leeds

    Ex Leeds striker Steve Morison has been speaking to Phil Hay about his ill fated time at Leeds. It seems the the former Norwich hitman didn't even want to come to Leeds, but felt his hand was forced.

    “I failed because of myself, not because of anyone else. I don’t need to tell you how much of a mess the club was, that’s a given, but I messed up. I made bad choices and I failed.

    “I was trying to prove a point without having the body to prove it. I was fighting a mental battle to prove people wrong. Physically, I couldn’t do it.”

    “Did I want to go to Leeds? No, I didn’t,” Morison said. “Ultimately my hand was forced.”

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    Darlow available on a free next Summer

    Newcastle United are set to let goalkeeper Karl Darlow leave on a free transfer upon the expiry of his contract next summer, despite rejecting a substantial offer from Leeds earlier in the year. The 28yo shot stopper has been warming the bench for the Magpies this term in favour of Martin Dúbravka.

    Darlow and fellow barcode Jonjo Shelvey were both reprimanded in the Summer after the pair had a street fight outside a late night take away at 3am. Apparently Shelvey took exception about being called a bald c**t.

    Darlow or Casilla?

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    In other news

    Leeds are to open contract talks with Stuart Dallas after the Northern Ireland International made it clear the he hopes to remain at Eland Road.

    What would you offer him?


    A host of Championship clubs are vying for position to snap up Jack Clarke in the January transfer window.

    The 18yo winger scored the only goal of the game for England U20's against their Swiss counterparts earlier this week which will only enhance his chances of being noticed in the shop window.

    Clarke has been unable to even find a place on the bench in recent weeks. Would you care if Clarke signed for a fellow Championship promotion rival in January?


    TransferMarkt have have broken down the market value of every team in the Championship so far this season. What you you think of their valuations?

    Fulham
    Squad value: £122.4m

    League position: 6th

    Most valuable player: Aleksandar Mitrovic - £22.5m

    Stoke City
    Squad value: £94.95m

    League position: 24th

    Most valuable player: Jack Butland - £13.5m

    Leeds United
    Squad value: £81m

    League position: 3rd

    Most valuable player: Helder Costa - £13.5m (I bet you thought they were going to say Phillips don't you)

    Huddersfield Town
    Squad value: £78.66m

    League position: 23rd

    Most valuable player: Terrence Kongolo - £13.5m

    West Brom
    Squad value: £73.22m

    League position: 4th

    Most valuable player: Charlie Austin - £7.2m

    Cardiff City
    Squad value: £68.76m

    League position: 13th

    Most valuable player: Josh Murphy - £9m

    Nottingham Forest
    Squad value: £63.95m

    League position: 10th

    Most valuable player: Joao Carvalho - £7.2m

    Middlesbrough
    Squad value: £53.51m

    League position: 18th

    Most valuable player: Britt Assombalonga - £9m

    Bristol City
    Squad value: £50.576m

    League position: 5th

    Most valuable player: Benik Afobe - £7.2m

    Derby County
    Squad value: £47.52m

    League position: 19th

    Most valuable player: Jayden Bogle - £6.3m

    Swansea City
    Squad value: £43.92m

    League position: 1st

    Most valuable player: Andre Ayew - £5.4m

    Brentford
    Squad value: £42.75m

    League position: 14th

    Most valuable player: Ollie Watkins - £7.2m

    Reading
    Squad value: £41.9m

    League position: 16th

    Most valuable player: Liam Moore - £6.3m

    Sheffield Wednesday
    Squad value: £40.66m

    League position: 11th

    Most valuable player: Jacob Murphy - £5.4m

    Hull City
    Squad value: £38.43m

    League position: 20th

    Most valuable player: Jarrod Bowen - £9m

    Blackburn Rovers
    Squad value: £35.06m

    League position: 17th

    Most valuable player: Bradley Dack - £7.2m

    Birmingham City
    Squad value: £32.81m

    League position: 9th

    Most valuable player: Kristian Pedersen £4.05m

    QPR
    Squad value: £27.68m

    League position: 8th

    Most valuable player: Jordan Hugill - £5.4m

    Preston North End
    Squad value: £25.74m

    League position: 7th

    Most valuable player: Alan Browne - £3.6m

    Wigan Athletic
    Squad value: £18.56m

    League position: 22nd

    Most valuable player: Josh Windass - £1.8m

    Millwall
    Squad value: £17.82m

    League position: 12th

    Most valuable player: Jake Cooper - £3.15m

    Luton Town
    Squad value - £15.08m

    League position: 15th

    Most valuable player: Izzy Brown - £4.5m

    Charlton Athletic
    Squad value: £14.22m

    League position: 2nd

    Most valuable player: Tomer Hemed - £2.25m

    Barnsley
    Squad value: £7.79m

    League position: 21st

    Most valuable player: Dimitre Cavare - £1.13m

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  2. ristac

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    Morning all...

    I’ve no idea if our French keeper on loan is any good or not, we didn’t even get to see him in a cup game. If we have any doubts over his ability I’d consider Darlow for competition of the jersey assuming his wage demands were not great but then we all want promotion so is he PL quality?

    Before Bielsa I wouldn’t have cared about Dallas but he has proved to be a great utility player so I’d be happy for him to sign a new contract.
     
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    Morning all :emoticon-0148-yes:

    For me Meslier is top drawer and I was hoping to get Darlow in the Summer but with Meslier and if we can keep him its a no brainer for me. Meslier was voted the most outstanding young talent in France so pleased we were able to get him.

    Anyone remember how pleased we were when the club managed to bring Irish Wonderkid Robbie McDaid to the club. Cellino was in charge though and our academy wasnt the best and after a couple of seasons Robbie hadnt made the breakthrough so we released him. He has gone back over the Irish Sea and after living out of his car he has buckled down and got his mojo back. Scoring for fun at Glentoran where he has bagged 30 goals so far with 16 of those last season. Plenty of pundits said Robbie was special and thats why many of us were chuffed when we got him. Chuffed for him now though, well done Robbie<applause>
     
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    I’ve stopped getting excited about the young talent we sign Doc. I’m pleased we sign them but it’s just wait and see for me, I’m still left wondering why we released a few that we did this season.
     
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    Morning all <ok>

    Casilla for me. I think he will have a good season.

    Dallas talks need to start and if he keep up this form should 100% be offered a new deal.
     
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    Good Morning to Matt and co from a chilly Bardsey when will this heatwave arrive the sooner the better for me>
    Yes I would keep Dallas he gets on with things and seems t5o cause no problems
    How can Helder Costa be valued in our team as we have only loaned him same with Izzie Brown at Luton
    Buy this French keeper and forget Darlow
    Should Boycott deserve a gong after beating his girlfriend up I think not sends a very wrong message Harvey Weinstock will get one next!
    Pleased Doc about McDaid I hope he comes back and makes it big time
     
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    I'm still struggling to see the fascination in Darlow, a keeper that hasn't made many first team appearances, I'm not a fan of Kiko but not sure if Darlow would be an improvement.

    As soon as we signed Morison in exchange for Becchio, I realised Warnock had lost the plot, Morison's career had spirraled downwards, unfortunately after the transfer so did Becchio's. All the folk bemoaning the club now, ought to remember it was only a few short years ago we were in that state.

    I think Dallas, with his ability to adapt to several positions and his professionalism should be given an extension, even at prem level he would be useful to the squad. a 3 year deal would be fair.
     
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    This fascination with Darlow is strange especially as we have very good keepers on our books alread
     
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    Those values are nonsense

    Phillips would fetch more transfer fees than any other player in our squad

    I have to say since the arrival of Bielsa the value of our squad has significantly increased

    We doubled our money on quite a few players we sold in the summer.

    What fees would we acquire for the likes of Ayling, Cooper, Alioski, Klich, Dallas, Forshaw & Berardi now?
     
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    Jack will remain at Leeds as long as Spurs are happy for him to stay at ER
     
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    Lessons on negotiation, for a start. He just killed the deal for himself by being so overtly keen! <whistle>
     
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    We didn't double our money on Pontus Roofe just about,We would be lucky to get our money back on Bamford
     
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    I think you could be right.

    Poch will be wanting Clarke's head sorted, & he knows Bielsa will help him re-find his place in the football world. The last thing he wants is another club picking him up, pandering to him, then ultimately dropping him when he can't be bothered producing onfield.

    His ability is not in doubt.
     
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    Think he would be very happy with a modest rise, no prem club would come for him, and any championship club is a step down.
     
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    I was being flippant! <doh>
     
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    Indeed Clarke is at Leeds because of Marcelo
     
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    How much did Pontus cost us ?

    We still doubled our money on Roofe
     
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    It turned out Becchio refused to sign a new contract with Leeds in 2013 and wanted to move to Norwich - FACT
     
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    He cost 3.5m
     
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    And sold him for £4.5m. According to Diane Abbott that’s double <ok>
     
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