Off Topic If you are a smoker and can't give up

you can use cannabis to give up tobacco, a way better alternative on many levels

 

Which SmokeTech product in particular Ron? They seem to have a few

 

My family of ex smokers use Smoktech - Model X-PRIV - They set theirs at 60.0W

Cost about 80 Euros

 

PS By the sounds of it though, be careful what liquid is used. None of the cheap stuff or "bought off the street". No telling what is in it.

 

Another scare
57-year-old Briton, Terry Miller, has been named the world's first victim of the deadly disease lipoid pneumonia likely due to vaping.

The former factory worker died in 2010 and his widow Glynis has since criticised UK health watchdogs for their claims about the safety of e-cigarettes.

Doctors referred Mr Miller's death to an inquest after they found oil in his lungs. A coroner recorded an open verdict.

Dr Gareth Walters, a consultant in occupational and interstitial lung diseases at the University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust, said we cannot yet assess the risk because there is not enough information.

Vaping has been linked with 200 health problems including heart disorders, chest pains and pneumonia, an official dossier has revealed.

Health watchdog the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has recorded 74 reports of health problems suspected to have been caused by e-cigarettes since 2014.

Of the 74 cases, 49 were classified as 'serious'.

Experts are now calling for a national system to record every problem associated with e-cigarettes amid increasing concern over their safety, according to The Sunday Times.

They have already been banned in Brazil, India, Thailand and Singapore.

The MHRA insisted all health problems are reviewed and emphasised they are not concrete proof of the side effects of vaping.

E-cigarette users have been advised to monitor their shortness of breath or any signs of coughing or fever.

Last week, the chief executive of vaping brand Juul, Kevin Burns, resigned amid growing fears around the popular e-cigarettes.

 

The heading is frightening but for a balanced view read the whole article. Makes one wonder who is funding these reports

Vaping Could Be 'Potentially Even More' Harmful to Hearts Than Smoking, Scientists Warn

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/mi...ng-scientists-warn/ar-BBWBcFc?ocid=spartanntp

 

As a life time smoker who’s given up for eight months now, I was never enamoured with vaping. It never made sense. For me people tend to draw a lot stronger than fags I’ve often thought it would do heavy damage to lungs.

 

Gave up four years ago, tried vaping as it seemed the obvious alternative but it made me cough More!

I kept taking out the middle Smoke until I had no more to take out, So the one in the morning
stayed but the one on the way to work stopped ( only 10 mins away so why ) then the one
In between breaks went, the extra one at breaks went and so on until that was that.

You have to want to give up.

 

Vape warning as British teenager suffers 'catastrophic' illness

Another scary headline

Why are they putting such scary headlines when, after reading the article, you get a totally different impression?

I'm sure tobacco companies have some involvement in this

Sure there should be warnings but some people only see the headlines

 

The report states that there are 220 deaths per day caused by smoking. Imagine that being a headline every day; "One person suspected of catastrophic illness caused by vaping and 220 people died today as a result of smoking"

 

All day, every day, brother.

I've never smoked cigarettes but for about 15-20 years I was packing my joints with tobacco. Still have the odd one but much prefer my vape now. It's nice and discreet and I can take it pretty much everywhere with me. No PG or VG ****e required.

 

I could never smoke weed with tobacco.

 

Are you British? It's all we've known really over here. Putting tobacco in a joint is pretty much only a European thing. The rest of the world think we are crazy.

 

I'm Australian. A lot of people here also use tobacco as well, but heaps don't too. And as a non tobacco user, it was just a natural thing to avoid it stuff. Mixing tobacco with weed just made me sort of weird in the lungs.

There was a global survey done on drug use a few years back by a London based firm which covered 115,000 respondents from 50 countries, which turned out to be interesting. 45% of Australians mix in a bit of tobacco. Cannabis is the world's most popular illicit drug. It turns out that Aussies lead the world when it comes to billy use. A bit of garden hose sticking out of a plastic bottle is a beautiful thing.

 

i suppose it’s to do with availability , in the seventies virtually all cannabis in uk was hashish form , so the preferred sharing and easiest method was a joint with tobacco base , sprinkled with crumbled hash.
Since the advent of skunk , hash is rare , so is imported weed , the natural stuff , but most tokers stilll use tobacco to bulk out, help burn the weed .
When i was at sea , we had copious amounts of weed so used to smoke big fat joints made from weed alone , lovely !
When i gave up babylon weed ( tobacco ) i still smoked weed straight, usually a single skin , now due to drug testing at work i don’t have weed at all ..... .when i retire i will occasionally have some exotic import weed , costa rican , panama red , or thai stick , or even some colombian at a push !

 

Most of the time here, hash and oil was spotted. (Heated on a knife or a bit of foil and smoked through a tube.)

All a long time ago.

 

Oil we used to heat and spread on the Rizla , not the most economical way but quick hit ,I liked to ingest oil and hash , way more subtle but intense feelings. .....

 

Once you got through that gut churning feeling that came with mushy coffee, they were really cool.

 

****ing hell Oddy. I've never touched any form of drugs/weed, whatever the terms are, and never will. But I have no problem having "hallucinations" of naked women