Off Topic THE (DANGEROUS) GAMES ABOUT TO BE PLAYED OUT

dangerous games about to be played out …
AND what a ******* MESS ………….
In street interviews there is a lot of support from the public for Boris … and the underlying tone is peeps are fed up with Brexit …
a GE?
This could lead to an identical scenario to now... no one with a big majority … probably the only guarantee's is WOMBLES mob finish up with same number ...DUP finish up the same … usual 4 or 5 independants .Plaid Cymru

the battle would be.... CONSERVATIVES v LABOUR and the other 3 parties greens/ lib dem/ Brexit causing havoc and upsets ..
and because of, and reported by quite a few media sources due to his very "non biased" attitude toward in the main favouring Brexit disruption, one spokesperson did actually spout out one of the occurrences .. conservatives will stand against him … the speaker is usually given a free ride!
shadow chancellor response to the chancellors future spending was absolutely diabolical … is was not a budget, so references to anything that the chancellor didn't address was pitiful and meaningless … income tax or other items comes in a budget. Labour really scraping the barrel.....
this Cummings geezer he could be bad karma! IF AS rumours intimate he is responsible for the 21 MP'S being whipless as well as getting shot of a number of ministerial staff he should be taken to the tower!
we know there is now around 327/8 that are remainers … an interview on local news tonight interviewing peeps had one or more stating they are being misrepresented by their MP who has lost the whip and were 100% behind Boris and booting them out ….
One interesting fact about the lords is that should they get a positive on one of the amendments … over 120 of them! it comes back to the commons and all business needs to be concluded by Monday mid day? I wonder if we get to prorog…. can Boris just go and say election on Nov 2nd …………… hope !
One must also feel sorry for the queen obviously she will need to have to keep up with whats going on and most days she has papers to sign or deal with ……..
one thing ...although we have all this ***** going on the market is quite steady, was going to sell off a few hundred thousand shares today but held off and market went up! might have to sell tomorrow though ….

 

Bizarre that Boris pulls the whip from around 20 of his MPs when he only commanded a majority of 1 in parliament. He is likely to lose everything he tries to push through the house now.
(And no, RP, I’m not happy about this chaos. I don’t want ‘no deal’, but being able to be prepared to walk away is critical when negotiating any deal, whether Brexit - or buying a car - it’s about the only thing I agreed with Boris on.....)

 

I agree and feel a bit uncomfortable with his decision.
It's not 'bizarre' though as it's not unusual for a boss to root out 'bad apples' for the greater good in his pursuit to manage his company/team whatever.
I've done it and sure others on here have done it as well.

I also distinctly remember GJ rooting out 'bad apples', his words, early on in his tenure here and possibly again towards the end with Basso.
Think LJ alluded to this kind of situation with Tomlin. We all loved Tomlin's ability but had to agree with the position LJ adopted.

Ps - I know you're not happy with the chaos but expect there's a little bit of you that is happy as Brexit has still not happened and quite likely that it ever will.

 

BREXIT HAS BLOWN UP MY TV! I cant watch it now .. have to get a new one which is "firewalled" against Corbolliks and co

 

Sorry RP, my reply corrupted.

From a travel perspective yes. However, I’m aware of the damage being done to democracy by all this and I honestly can’t see how the damage can be repaired.
I don’t want Remain on a technicality. It’s bad for the trust in our whole government system and would lead to all sorts of trouble.
Imagine if the government ‘gave up’, or if the Lib Dem’s won a GE with their main policy of scrapping Brexit (now that WOULD be interesting as the people would have spoken again!!) the people who voted Leave (understandingly) wouldn’t simply accept it and go home - they would feel even more angry than they currently do. The row would go on ad infinitum.
We must Brexit - I hope we get a deal. It won’t be in October though - as I predicted when Boris was appointed - he simply has no power in parliament whatsoever. It will have to wait until after a GE.

Not sure if I’ve answered your question RP. Basically I’m only pleased from a travelling and holiday perspective.

 

I'm so fed up with all this as I expect the whole country .

Honestly can't see, other than leaving the EU, how we'll all get back together.
We joined in the 70's for which I didn't vote for - I believe we should do the same now.
Accept the result. No matter the consequences. Good, bad or indifferent.

The alternative harming democracy will hurt more in the long term.

 

we were screwed over when we joined … it wasn't what we signed up for or thought we were signing up for …

 

Looking on from the relative safety of Canada I am appalled at the chaos I see in my birth country and the anger that it has created amongst it's population. Politicians have become self-centred idiots that couldn't punch, or think, themselves out of a wet paper bag. Did the E.U. have a set of rules for this scenario that the U.K. fully understood or was it made up on the fly?

You couldn't make this debacle up and get people to believe you but the sad fact is that it has become an international joke. Good luck escaping the shackles.

 

Also it has changed beyond recognition in the prevailing 40 odd years, none of which we’ve had the opportunity to agree to, imagine if we hadn’t had the opportunity to change the government for a similar period .

 

Rob -
Corbyn wins the GE, goes to the EU, gets a deal and then campaigns in the GE against his deal.

Is that the Labour position ?

 

Why do you think I'm a Corbyn supporter? You seem absolutely determined to pigeon-hole me into this position when I'm really not. Any 'backing' of him I put up here is merely to point out that it's completely hypocritical to back Johnson and slate Corbyn when any criticism you aim at JC you could almost always point at BJ as well.

That probably is the Labour position. It's daft. What exactly do you want?

 

At the moment that is their position, stated by Emily Thornberry thurs and confirmed by Jonn McDonnell yesterday. It’s a ridiculous stance, I can’t see them going into a election with it, it’s their way of keeping both sides within their party onside. They will change it once they’ve had their conference imho, if they don’t they will be toast at a GE.

 

well well well BERCOW throws one final spanner in the works … amazing when there is "mundane business" in the house the opposition bench's are crammed to the gun whales!
ALLOWS ages and ages of compliments to be bestowed upon himself when in reality with such a short time to debate other matters he allows it to go on beyond the "usual 30 minutes" for such things.
I used to really like this fellow, PMQ's were unbelievable at times, but in the past 20 or so months he has really blotted his copy book, his labour colleagues have had more than an honest fair share of "give" .. and as a staunch remainer labour mp his biased attitude has been/helped the undoing of our democratic processes. You can now, if you believe his intention was to stand down at the next time there was an election he has gone hell bent on trying to obstruct the processes and endeavour to get his way … remain!
Boris and Leo well their speech's were interesting … could it be that EIRE MIGHT BE A VETO? that really would throw a spanner in the works especially if it was announced /"leaked " EIRE might veto the extension!!!!! it certainly wont be 1 of the 20 or so minor, money grabbing countries in the EU .. WHY SHOULD THEY GIVE UP their easy money! from the EU cash cow

 

He has overstepped the mark, he has not upheld our parliamentary sovereignty, he has modified it to suit his political ambition .. he can now spend the next 10 years making himself a millionaire by writing books and doing speech's at a few £100k a time.
I wouldn't agree he is a prick, YOU GOT THAT COMMENT WRONG, a prick is useful …. he is simply a biased individual that like most of the opposition does not like never winning anything

 

JGF, Bercow was a tory MP

 

Glad he ain’t anymore

 

HE CERTAINLY WAS STARTED IN BRISTOL ...also I believe was a lib dem before going to labour a few years ago pre speaker