An open letter from Ehab...

I wasn’t actually meaning the planning.
I seem to recall they wanted some financial benefit (rate reduction?) which they could never have so they didn’t put planning permission in at all?

Could be wrong, but my memory is of them wanting something they couldn’t have and then rushing to sort the Airco out quick for youth league assessment (or something) because they hadn’t planned properly when they should have done.

I think SMC had the right to kick the other clubs out, although if they’d planned ahead that could have been done so they all had much more notice to sort other venues out.

I don’t think the Council should have written the legals so they did have the right though, so a mistake on the Councils part there I think.

 

It is for a massive club.

 

There you go again with your I'm better than you , I'm a Super Fan attitude which is where we started !

 

Brooking at the time stated that we didn’t need anything bigger than a 15k capacity, the southern **** him!

 

I didn't even know he knew the Allams.

 

We had a glimmer of a chance. We went from 5,000 to 20,000 pretty quickly. When the new stadium was spoken of in the 1990s, my non-City supporting friends used to mock the idea of City having, or filling, a stadium bigger than 20,000.

We had a glorious decade or so when pretty much the whole region supported City. It felt that way anyway. When I was at school - Fifth Ave, Endike, Cooper - in the 1980s you knew the other City fans. We stood out. We were lost in a sea of Manchester United and Liverpool fans. Football was in the primacy at those schools back then, but the city's football club didn't really matter. This was when we had a half-decent team too. God knows what it was like in the 1990s.

Then we got Adam Pearson, the KC, Peter Taylor and the rest. I remember my cousin - who was going to Longcroft in Beverley at the time - telling me about her new boyfriend in about 2010. I asked her which football team. She looked shocked that I'd asked. "City" she replied, adding: "everyone at school supports City". I could have cried. It was everything I'd ever wanted for the club. I'd always slightly envied the likes of Derby and Sunderland who get huge attendances from relatively small cities/catchment areas. I saw that we had something approaching that in reach. It was tangible. You saw it in the city centres, on Newland Ave, Hessle Road, Holderness Road, Bransholme centre, everywhere. City shirts outnumbering all the other shirts combined, including the rugby teams. When there was a home game on, it was unmistakable. None of the gaggle of regulars barely filling the 23 as it made its way through North Hull Estate and Orchard Park. We were getting crowds in the late teens and early 20s, but if we could just hold on to it... If we could just create a situation where every mum and dad in Hull would take their son or daughter to games as a matter of course. Where the civic pride that so many talk of would involve ditching the Manchester United and Liverpool shirts and buying one coloured black and amber. If we could do that, then not immediately, but eventually, 30,000, even 35,000 might be realistic.

Then came the Allams.

Of all the things they've done, the alienation of some many diehards and the hurdles they've put in front of kids wanting to support City have been the hardest to take. All that progress was stopped in its tracks, all because of stupid egos, crass ideas and sheer contempt for the fans. There's been a bit of talk about forgiving and forgetting when it comes to issues with the Allams on Twitter recently. And I get why. But there are some things that will always grate with me. We had a glimmer of a chance of City moving up to something ridiculously special with regards to the club's standing in the region. And now it's gone. THAT is the Allams' legacy.

 

I reckon the 25 K Capacity is about right all things considered.

Even allowing for the current state of affairs which obviously has had a big effect our support can vary so much we could see fans fighting for Wembley tickets one season then further down th road see us closing the upper west and struggle to out-sing the away end.

Nothing new.

 

You're on a roll today hitting the nail right on the head. Winning promotion and then not having a civic reception in the city center

 

I’m slightly baffled here with this City shirt lark? Yes,we saw the huge volume of ever increasing black n amber merchandise worn with apparent pride as we ripped the leagues to shreds prior to Wembley,but IF that shirt was purchased to show some kinda allegiance with Hull City why has it apparently suddenly been dumped around the City and beyond? Many will argue a football shirt is worn for two reasons,pride and a sworn LOYALTY yet here we are talking about Manure and Liverpool shirts been out numbering City shirts all over again.

 

Absolutely superb post. Nailed it.
And this ....... " I remember my cousin - who was going to Longcroft in Beverley at the time - telling me about her new boyfriend in about 2010. I asked her which football team. She looked shocked that I'd asked. "City" she replied, adding: "everyone at school supports City". I could have cried. It was everything I'd ever wanted for the club.".
That's me too. 100%.
Same was happening in Driff (and much further afield). Just how it should be. It was beautiful.
Slight correction to your ending though ....... "we had more than a glimmer of a chance of City moving up to something ridiculously special with regards to the club's standing in the region. And now it's gone. THAT is the Allams' legacy".
It's so, so sad. But then it's 'only' football I guess.

 

Should it have been in an American city centre?

 

Dump the Allams ..NOT the shirt.

You know who you are...


Allams OUT

 

Then it was a fad for the ****s obviously following like sheep

 

Brooking failed to recall that he played in front of 32k at BP when his beloved West...Hammmm, were dumped out of the FA...Southern gobshite...

 

Perhaps..

Always maintain those who stuck around when we were truly sh,t deserved a medal back then, but whilst different owners came and departed in some heads, it was simply a question of loyalty.

 

Introduce kids for a quid and potentially it wouldn't be enough

 

Like a few gave eluded to there is always the novelty factor !
Sustaining it isn't easy and far to many older football fans push their Prem clubs or ****i g Leeds onto them !

 

Certainly wouldn’t go amiss.

We’ve all witnessed our Potential. Hopefully one day some fukcer taps into it again.

 

You're either just being ridiculous for the sake of a wind up or god help you if you believe that rubbish you wrote.

 

Or maybe he didn’t.