As low as 9/4 fav for the 2000Gns. Would you take that? I certainly wouldn't. Can't see that one winning the 2000Gns
Looks a class above all the other two year olds we have seen. That was a nice race bringing together several formlines and he has routed them.
I got 8/1 this morning Agree that 9/4 is too short though. Nevertheless I always like to have a decent price ante post bet for the Guineas.
afternoon,gents! goodwood,3 35: well,what can you say,its the usual suspects here again,namely stradivarius,DEE EX BEE and cross counter.but the big question is:who will be the winner this time around?probably the gosden horse again,but i hope,DEE EX BEE will be able to turn the form around today,although its going to be tough,as stradivarius seems to get better and better with each run,but they say,every race is different,so i hope,this tough as teak johnston horse gets a well deserved win today,after some grand effort this season..
This will be a different race than the Ascot gold cup. O'Brien will use tactics and a strong gallop could play into the hands of CROSS COUNTER
I think the 3 year old horses must be considered in this as they are getting such a big weight allowance. So for me 20/1 each way bets on Dancing Willoughby and South Pacific to take on the mighty Stradivarius
personally,i think,the dark horse here is wells farrh go.but ive got a nagging feel,that this is step too early in his career,in such a race.but i wouldnt be surprised to see him run above expectations.
absolutely so! take a bow,stradivarius..what a horse!as for DEE EX BEE,no excuses,he ran his heart out once more.grand horse.
It was an impressive win but the margins look freakish. This was a tight contest on the ratings, with one pound covering four horses. The margins were 5 lengths, 5 lengths and 3 and a half lengths. So where do we take a horse as running to his form by which to gauge the others? Coming into the race today's 1-2-3 were rated 108, 90 and 100 on Racing Post figures. Positive was only once raced and hard to assess, so he was certainly open to improvement. In the circumstances it is probably best to use Lope Y Fernandez as the gauge but even he is tenuous after just two starts. If we take Lope Y Fernandez as running to 100 today we really are looking at a figure of over 125 for Pinatubo and that seems fanciful as it is a figure Frankel ran to on his third start but that was achieved in late September and Frankel is almost certainly freakishly good. What is very clear is that a few failed to run to anywhere near their form today. Visinari came in rated 106 but has been beaten more than 13 lengths, while Mystery Power was rated 111 and was beaten more than 15 lengths. We cannot use either of those horses as any sort of guide to the value of today's form because they ran terribly. The Racing Post Ratings have been filtering through as I have been composing this post and read as follows:- Pinatubo 121 Positive 109 Lope Y Fernandez 96 Visinari 87 Platinum Star 85 Mystery Power 86 Milltown Star (Should not have been in this race) 58 That leaves Pinatubo going up 13 lbs, Positive Up 19 lbs and Lope Y Fernandez going down 4 lbs today and the rest pretty much stinking the place out by upwards of 20 lbs on the day. My own take on it is that Lope Y Fernandez pretty much ruled himself out as a Guineas prospect today and I would be more cautious and award him a mark of 91 today as he was never really going early in the race and his run petered out pretty quickly. If we then give Positive 104, a fair enough rise of a stone from his debut, we can give Pinatubo 116, which is still top class and leaves him room to go to 120 by season's end. I always take the view that if a horse runs 20 lbs below form, it could just as easily have been 25 lbs. The upper limit on how high a 2YO can feasibly go is always a good rule of thumb and I think that Pinatubo is getting into borderline Frankel territory and earlier in the season than the Legend managed it. I would not back Pinatubo at the odds for the Guineas. So many of the really highly rated 2YO horses find no improvement or even regress as 3YOs. For this season, Pinatubo is going to be very hard to oppose though.
The toughest horse in the business does it again, when they make the movie of Stradivarius's career this will be the poster:- https://images.app.goo.gl/hzpT5WbDZnTjuD147
perth,6 50: its hard to gauge,how much improvement is left in JOHN MOR,at the age of ten,and he must have had lots of problems in his career,hence his mammooth absence.but on the positive side,his three runs this season have all been quite encouraging,and he ran much better than his finishing position suggests last time out.so,can go well here..e w player..
not a bad run.there should be a small race for him somewhere.. perth,7 25: EL TERREMOTO is the class act here,and though he has to conceide a lot of weight,should go very well,if this doesnt come too soon for him,after his fine effort in the summer plate at market rasen.
Not sure why people are being a bit negative about Pinatubo. As Stick says he's put to bed a lot of form lines: more than confirmed the Chesham, rubbished the Superlative and crashed the July. What else must he do? The view seems to be he hasn't much scope but when you interrogate that it seems that he's not very big, but being big isn't everything. There have been plenty of average sized champs. I look forward to seeing where he next appears. I'd like to see a months gap (at least) and maybe only one race after that. He has already earned the right to be a sire (they could retire him now) so how they enter him will tell us a lot. He has a fine pedigree being by Shamardal (who won over 10f the only time he raced over that far but has a pedigree that suggests he'd have stayed further) out of a mare by Dalakhani. That mares granddam is a full sister to a Prix de Diane winner who became the dam of Invincible Spirit. Ending up at the Breeder's Cup this year would put me off because he could stay 10f next year and must be considered a Guineas horse.
Interesting to read this now. Despite his perceived lack of scope (sic), Appleby says he has developed physically in the last 6 weeks. He also added he does nothing at home and was thrashed by his Champagne 2nd in a recent gallop: probably explains why he started at lowly Wolverhampton. We have become too used to these giant Galileos and forget that Mill Reef was just 15.1 or 15.2, as was Northern Dancer. In many respects I'm sure Appleby would love it if the 2000G was run at Epsom as he's ideally suited to that track. His style of racing is also attractive as although his jockey has a handful he does not pull. He was just one of the crowd until Buick put him in the race. Deeply impressive. If all goes well, I'm sure he'll be favourite at Newmarket next spring. With his conformation and style oof running I can imagine they'll be tempted by Epsom if he takes the 2000G in his stride.
