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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Was jesus a jew?
     
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  2. Woodyhoopleson

    Woodyhoopleson Well-Known Member

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    I'm definitely not a member of any political party and no, I've not read anything written by any Jewish members. What would I learn if I did?

    I was referring to the part in stroller's post where it says anti semitism is on the rise in many parts of the world.

    Granted, I can't vouch for many parts of the world, but the parts I've been in and the stuff I've heard doesn't lead me to agree with this sentence.

    Again, lots of criticism of the Israeli government, their dealings with Palestine etc etc, but that isn't anti semitism, is it?

    So, what am I missing?
     
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  3. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    Er, yes he was Bob.
    Why?
     
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  4. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Just wondered mate
     
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  5. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    No he was Spanish. Clue is in the name.
     
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  6. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    El Jesus
     
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  7. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    So, Jo Swinson is the new leader of the Nambies.

    Nah, me neither.
     
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  8. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    She was only voted in democratically. There'll have to be a confirmatory people's vote
     
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  9. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    bet you would
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  10. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    What, and do the dirty on Whatsherface? Never!
     
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  11. YorkshireHoopster

    YorkshireHoopster Well-Known Member

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    Read the flyer again. Corbyn has been pretty late in condemning it but the examples he gives are very clear - especially the guy who thinks Hitler was misunderstood. It really is about time that Labour politicians learned to distinguish between the state of Israel and individual Jews. It really is such an easy cop out to justify your treatment of someone that he or she belongs to the same ethnic group as a small nation state which behaves in an oppressive way to its Palestinian population
     
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    colognehornet Well-Known Member

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    We need concrete examples of what is acceptable here and what isn't. Attacking the race or the religion is not acceptable - nor is it acceptable to use negative stereotypes to describe the whole group. What is acceptable is criticism of the Israeli state and of the political consequences of Zionist belief - the problem is that it is, apparently, not allowed that I describe Zionism as a racist endeavour, even though it leads to forms of segregation. I can describe Apartheid as racist - but do the same with Zionism and the sparks will fly.
     
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  13. Star of David Bardsley

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    Pretty uneducated on this especially as it should affect me more than most but I thought Zionism was about all Jews being in Israel but not just Jews. Israel is a pretty multicultural place all things considered and mostly secular.

    Nice place for a holiday but I won’t be moving there unless WW3 starts and I have to. We still won’t have signed a striker by then.
     
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  14. colognehornet

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    Any ideology which places value on being ''Gods chosen people'' is not in a position of being able to accuse others of racism. The fact is that variations of Zionism promote the unfair confiscation of land, involving the expulsion of Palestinians (altogether the dispossession of about 1.5 million of them). The fact that the Jews once lived in the area now called Israel does not mean that they are the only ones with a claim on calling that area their home - the Palestinians have just as much right to be there as they do themselves. The fact is that Arab land was taken away and given to the Jews as the result of human rights violations in Europe - based on the fact that they had lived in that area 2,000 years ago. They have no more inherant right to that land than any other people who have lived there over that period.
     
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  15. sb_73

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    Anyone else watching the incredibly drawn out coronation of the next PM? Who will, I predict, lead one of the shortest lived governments in history.

    Jesus, this is more long winded than the oscars. Everybody needs five minutes to congratulate and thank each other for organising a closed shop election.

    Boris 92,153

    Hunt. 46,656

    Let the carnage/fiasco begin!
     
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  16. bobmid

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    God help the UK. Abandon ship!!
     
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  17. Steelmonkey

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    Jeezus **** <doh> we're doomed
     
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  18. Uber_Hoop

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    Some bloke called Boris, I hear. Anyone know anything about him?
     
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  19. QPR Oslo

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    Try Boris.
     
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  20. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    Could we have another poll Stan please?
    How long will Boris last.

    1. The Queen will barracade the door and he won't be able to get in
    2. Before the summer recess 25th July
    3. First week of new parliament 3rd Sept-7th
    4. September
    5. October
    6 1st Nov...no Brexit delivered
    7. He will lead us into the glorious new world like a champion on a white steed, with his golden locks fluttering in the wind
     
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