The Roy Keane style of management

Found this online......no wonder he has not made it in management.

'Do You Want To Collect Piss For A Living?' - Roy Keane's Incredible Team Talk

Former Ipswich Town goalkeeper Brian Murphy has given an incredible insight into what exactly it was like to work under Irish manager Roy Keane.

Keane oversaw the Championship club back in 2010 and brought Murphy in from Bohemians during his reign.

However, it wasn't such an enjoyable experience for all Irish players at the club with one, in particular, coming in for some harsh treatment.

I used to feel for Damien Delaney at times.

He used to hate Damo for whatever reason. Damo was a bit flash, he used to wear the baseball cap on backward and the American football jersey and they are from across the river from each other in Cork. After a game, if Damo made a mistake, Roy would be the first one to go for him and would absolutely hammer him. He would destroy him.

Murphy also explained that Keane's reputation for spiky temperament was well-placed. The entire team got to experience it after they draw a game against Leicester and the Irishman arrived in for his post-match team talk.

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"The drug testers were in. As anyone who has been drug tested in sport knows, once the drug-tester introduces himself to you, they have to stay with you or you have to be in their sight the whole period of time until you finish giving your sample.

"Roy is doing his team-talk and going around to a couple of lads and, rightly or wrongly, he was talking to one lad from London who was nineteen and said 'look, I don't think you are going to make it in the game. I don't see you being consistent enough, you will probably be back in London next year doing drive-by shootings with your friends'.

"We are all sitting there, 'Holy God'."

Roy went on 'one week I look at you and you're controlling the game, the next week I can't find you on the pitch, but it's OK because I don't blame you. I blame your parents for the way they brought you up.'

It depends how the lad takes it but everyone is different. The last lad he went, 'do you want to be a footballer, or do you want to collect piss for a living like that fella?' And all you see is the drug tester in the corner and the poor fella didn't know what was going on.

 

In the real world he’d Have been sparked, more than once. A proper ****.

 

Reminds me of my days as an apprentice.

 

There's no 'style' in that form of management - it's bullying, plain and simple AND, as can be seen from his poor managerial record, it doesn't work.

 

I think it’s brilliant

 

As he learned off clough and fergie
I’d disagree spes

 

I don’t think that was the style of Clough or Fergie. They were many things but very well respected by players that played under them. I doubt Keane has that same respect. He was **** on the pitch and he’s **** off it.

He’s a total gobshite.

 

Agreed.

He may or may not be a prick, but at least he seems to have some sort of moral fibre and fortitude.

To make a full judgement about him, I’d have to know his politics – but I do like the way he handles knob-head footballers.

I recall Crouch’s anecdote which was a good example of this.

 

I spent many hours over the years having meetings & discussions in Grievance & Disciplinary cases. More often than not they were a result of ignorant bullying bastard Managers who think having a job title gives them the right to belittle, humiliate, harass & intimidate their staff.

If a Manager can’t treat people with respect & dignity along with believing they’ll get results through intimidation then they’re not only in the wrong role but they’re also a **** in real life.

One of the most satisfying results I ever had was getting a whole line of Management removed. They’d wouldn’t change, were bullies & consistently underachieving in their roles. All blindly thought they were good at their job. A good Senior Manager listened, took advice, listened some more & acted decisively. **** ‘em, got what they deserved & I happily sent them elsewhere when they asked for representation.

There’s no place for them, anywhere.

 

Excellent post, Ben. It's just shocking how the title 'Manager' can go straight to some peoples heads and they'll instantly go on an ugly power trip. Sad ****s them

 

Spot on.

 

It's a fact that both the managers you quote had a fairly effective 'hairdryer treatment', thing is, they knew when to use it and when not, if you use it all the time people switch off to it, it's not an effective management tool; Clough and Fergie knew this, hence their huge success. There's no doubting that Keane was a great player and competitor (right up until Fergie binned him for bullying), as a manager though - I don't think he learnt anything from either man.

 

I’ve met him a few times when I lived in Alderley edge many years ago & I can confirm that he’s an utter **** away from football.... he speaks to everyone with pure contempt

 

Can’t disagree with most of that Ben but football has always been like Roy’s way.
Fergie and clough certainly did it that way. Tho fergie did change
Cloughy head-butted Roy Keane for giving a ball away once.
He used to whack players with his squash racket too
Stan Bowles wouldn’t have it and refused to play for him.
It’s certainly changed now tho

 

Nah, Cloughie would never get so personal as to blame parents & suggest a young player would be committing murder within a year.

Have you read the transcript of his childish outburst with the Irish players? Jon Walters should have twatted him, it’ll be a good day when somebody does.

Keane has an over-inflated ego & his record shows his management style doesn’t work. Basically he’s **** at it.

He, in my view, has difficulty communicating which alongside his obvious anger issues doesn't bode well to make a good manager.

Cloughie, Fergie & others had people knowledge & self control. Keane has neither.

Any Manager, in any business, that doesn’t understand that publicly belittling an individual, especially on a personal level, will very rarely lead to performance
improvement.

A completely different management approach is often needed for different individuals in getting them to achieve the same outcome. A good Manager will have studied the personalities of his team & as such will know this, recognise this, plan for this & as a result increase the chances of success.

Keane’s lack of intelligence makes him nothing more than a bully.

 

I’d read cloughys regrets over his handling of Justin fashanu mate

 

The very last word is the only one you needed.....

 

I’ve not read them but just had a scan. It appears Clough was showing the ignorance that was commonplace back then, one he later regretted. There’s also confirmation from Fashanu’s business partner that Clough’s comments crushed Fashanu.

Clough showed regret, something I don’t envisage Keane will ever do.

 

Former Borer skipper Gordon Jones didn't know what to make of Clough when he arrived at the club.

"I was told to turn up at the ground on Monday morning with another new lad, Arthur Proctor,who hung his clothes on Cloughie's peg," Jones recalled, "I went off to clean boots and Arthur went and swept the terraces. All of a sudden I hear this voice 'Gordon Jones, Gordon Jones' and Billy Horner said that's Cloughie shouting for you.

"I walked into the dressing room . He asked who I was and said 'See those clothes there' and as I tried to say they were Arthur's I got 'Don't answer me back.'

"He said if the clothes are ever there again you'll have your cards and coppers and you'll never be seen here again. I tried to utter something and he just said get lost."

"At the time that really upset me but as time went on and I ended up in his position I realised they were mickey-taking and I'm sure everyone had a good laugh at my expense. That was my first introduction to Brian Clough and dressing-room culture."

 

Didn't he try to end Alfe Inge Haalands career with that cowards challenge? ... that's not the actions of a competitor , it was the actions of a Thug. Wish Viera would have stuck the nut on him that time they had a spat in the tunnel . He does have a decent contempt of some of the ****e about modern football but he has no filter and i wouldn't be surprised if he had bodies in his basement .