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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    Embrace your fear. Life is to short to worry about inconsequential stuff like Brexit.
    Try not to respond, as I'm otherwise engaged. :)
     
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  2. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    they're lovin it!
     
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  3. Schad

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    The deeper irony is that calling Trump deeply insecure led him to lash out in his insecurity, demonstrating just how accurate his assessment was.
     
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  4. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    No. He’s been sacked for doing his job, which as a civil servant (note he works for the people, not the PM or politicians) is to report what he finds within the country he’s posted.

    He’s done precisely that, and been stitched up.
     
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  5. benditlikeabanana

    benditlikeabanana Well-Known Member

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    His job is to tell his boss his true feelings about how the government in that country are running things. Him saying that The white House is chaotic is not something new. Obviously some idiot released he emails to either try to embarrass May or Trump, or try to cause friction between he two countries.
    A sad way to finish a long career, he leaker will need to found fast
     
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  6. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    Or, possibly, to get rid of someone who perhaps would have been at odds with an incoming leader. The leak almost certainly came from the Foreign Office; spying on diplomatic cables is a huge no-no, and direct reports from the ambassador only reach so many hands.
     
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  7. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    By people leaking confidential emails to the Daily Mail? I agree.

    The consensus among all Washington diplomats this morning appears to be - This could have happened to any of us.
     
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  8. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Isn't it a bit strange a president insulting an ambassador in public calling him all sorts of names and telling the world how incompetent the ambassador is.?? yet doing much the same thing in public what the ambassador did in private. IMO just shows what a twat Trump is. Trump is making the Americans no better than the Russians. If the people don't sort him out fairly soon I think a lot of the rest of the world will do. They will isolate the Americans they will be on their own.........that is if they are not already.
     
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  9. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    No one is going to isolate the world’s largest economy. But of course Trump is doing the US’s international reputation no good at all.
     
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  10. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    .....and don't they know it.........I meant politically of course..........They will be looking for friends if indeed they go to war with Iran.....which is looking more and more likely if Iran enriches uranium any more.........The Americans just might end up with another Vietnam.........

    Edit if the US doesn't I think the Israeli's just might.........will upset the balance in the Middle East.
     
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  11. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Making the best of a bad lot is what the ordinary people have done since they started doing things. It's supposed to be different these days. The first thing you don't do is hand all the power to those who have far too much in the first place.

    If you were a remainer who just wants to 'get this thing over', then stop right there. Because this is the biggest political mistake this country will have made since it choped off Cromwell's head and restored the monarchy. And that eons ago. And there's no desire for leaving now anyway.
     
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  12. Saints_Alive

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    And trusting Richard II at Smithfield after his lackeys had murdered Wat Tyler in 1381...
     
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  13. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    Cromwell had a good run, and if truth be told, he got too big for his boots.
    The King defeater became king.
     
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  14. Saints_Alive

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    Still better than an actual King who believed that he had the divine right to rule by birth.
     
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    Oh no doubt. But it just highlights what happens when power is obtained. Eventually it corrupts.
     
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  16. StJabbo1

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    Certainly no majority far from it. If Art. 50 isn't revoked then a new referendum is the only democratic way to go with May and whichever of the klootzak zalupas is chosen by the tory members making it two PMs in a row not chosen by the electorate. All claiming to be "following the will of the people" cunning stunts they are and will remain to be.
     
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  17. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    By the way, the only squirming that's going to be done is by the people who voted all their hard won power away. That Us. Which includes You and Me.
     
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  18. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Sorry mate May was actually chosen by the people as she had a general election just after the referendum.........Boris or hunt will be chosen by the peoples representatives............The general public will get the chance at the next election.........always assuming the new pm survives that long.
     
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  19. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Cromwell died in his bed, it was his son Tumbledown Dick whose reign as Lord Protector was so catastrophic that the king was invited back.
     
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  20. Saints_Alive

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    No overall majority though and she had to do a dodgy deal with religious nuts and bigots in NI and bribe the DUP to gain power.
     
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