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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. sb_73

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    I think that you might find that it’s the decimation of manufacturing, which accounted for 25% of the economy in the 1970s and is now 10%, which has damaged the North most. This was a policy championed by the Thatcher government as they changed our economy from one which made things to one which moves other people’s money around. Germany still has 30% of its economy driven by manufacturing, so it’s not just about competition from places with lower labour costs or globalisation.

    Home grown policy driven situation coupled with historic under investment rather than EU conspiracy to pollute our precious bodily fluids.
     
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  2. sb_73

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    How do you mean?
     
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  3. bobmid

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    Nobody recognises the area up from london!
     
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  4. sb_73

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    I thought that was it mate!
     
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    Or she can go join the DUP which is where her heart really is.
     
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    She’s a clueless **** parroting long-debunked Brexit myths.
     
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    Manufacturing in the UK was on the decline way before Thatcher, and interestingly manufacturing employment fell fastest in the UK since 1998, due mainly to competition from Asia. Of course, Thatcher brought mining for fossil fuels in the North to an end. No one's complaining about that now.

    Germany's manufacturing based economy is being hit heavily at the moment by global pressures, and also the diesel emission scandals in German car manufacturers. Recession seems to be inevitable. Not just manufacturing either - look at Deutsche Bank

    The UK seems to be holding its own in relation to invention and manufacturing in the technology industry. I'd see that area as growth for the North of England and is all about training in the first instance.
     
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    Probably right about her heart. But I think she may stay close to central government. She could, of course, be taken by the Brexit Party
     
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  9. finglasqpr

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    I doubt there will be a long queue of interested parties as she is slightly past her sell by date.
     
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    So's Anne Widdecombe. These old birds with a mission and something to offer go on and on!
     
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  11. kiwiqpr

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    Uber would
     
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    I take it Labour is still making it's mind up...:grin:

     
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    That sums up the labour stance and the total decline in voters not knowing what they are standing for. They are so missing a trick a bit like SWP
     
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    New York running neck and neck still with London
    Paris will always struggle in France as Lyon still strong
    The cards still in favour of London but very uncertain and as I have said a lot on here I have a good insight to what a lot of the financial companies have already done to plan for an exodus .

    The companies involved are planning to move as being outside the EU will be impactive even Brexiteers are learning this very fast

    Look also at San Fran very powerful global companies based there

    London is owned by the city as I have said many times before it’s a unique country within a country
     
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    I work for Deutsche Bank what they are doing has **** all to do with Germany They are following suit and doing what all the others already have

    Germany will be fine they are a solid nation

    England is just a big cake especially The country of London if falls flat then e drone will take a slice

    And that’s after many on here ignored the basic statements I made re contingency plans

    Check out any of them example Barclays the info and truth is out there
     
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    not much has changed in two years
     
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    The NHS has just been given permission to buy patisiran, a new gene silencing drug which halts the progress and can reverse the progress of a disease called amyloidosis, a horrible nerve condition which starts with pins and needles in the feet and hands and progresses rapidly to paralysis, organ failure and death, usually within 3-15 years of the first symptoms being seen. It’s an hereditary disease, devastating entire families. It is also very rare, about 150 people are affected in the UK.

    In the US the average cost of this drug is $345,000 per patient per year (not sure but I think once you are on it, you are on it for life if it works). It is administered by IV drip once every three weeks. In the US the manufacturers (not my company, sadly) are thought to be offering a ‘money back if it doesn’t work’ deal (which of course means they are sensationally confident). It has taken them 15 years to develop the drug to this stage, in a branch of science that many other companies have given up on.

    NICE originally turned down the drug for us, on grounds that the £300,000 pa price was too much. Now they have been offered a ‘confidential discount’ and have given permission for its use.

    I’d like to hear what people think of this, if anyone is interested. It’s a great example of the direction medicine is going - very effective treatments tailored specifically to certain patients and diseases. Of course the more targeted the medicine means relatively small numbers of patients will get it and the more expensive it will be. A real health care funding dilemma.

    The Pharma industry deserves no sympathy at all, but it’s a big risk to take spending billions over many years on something with a high chance of failure with a very small ‘market’ even if it does work.
     
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    Poor oppressed Tommeh applies for US asylum.
     
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