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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. It'sOnlyAGame

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    Believe it or not those photos of the rubbish on the ground look like less than half what it normally looks like. In an ideal world there would be even less/none, but positive steps are being made all the time.
     
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    Absolutely. There was zero single-use plastic used in the catering outlets this year for the first time. Pretty much all that **** was brought in by the punters, most of whom, and I speak from long experience, have no idea how to behave at a festival, even to the extent of leaving their tents and camping equipment behind when they leave.
     
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    Apparently that’s the thing now. My mate said in conversation last week that his lad needed to buy a small tent for a festival. I told him I have a cheap tesco one used twice only.... he said it was on, because the buy a cheaper one and leave it there.

    FFS
     
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    The obvious answer is to charge a deposit on the equipment which only gets refunded if you take your crap with you, or something along those lines.
     
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    Yeah, I’ve witnessed people getting their tents brand sparking new out of the box at festivals only to leave them behind at the end. Ridiculous attitude. Couldn’t sum up the wasteful one-use lifestyle that we need to abolish any better. I noticed a push by Glastonbury to cut that out too, wonder if it worked as well as the reduction in plastic.
     
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    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Tbf, a significant number of people joined in.
    His point is that the 'young generation' don't practice what they purport to preach.
    The truth is there is plenty of ignorance amongst younger people too. But many of them haven't had the stuffing knocked out of them by life yet, and the life programming hasn't taken over yet. That's to be encouraged. And the movement against one-use plastic has to be taken up. We don't have a choice. So let's celebrate that many people took away a good lesson from that event. Reduce - Reuse - Recycle. Properly.
     
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    I remember a few years ago there was an appeal to help the victims of an earthquake, and Michael and Emily thought it would be a fantastic idea to get people to donate their tents to help the homeless. They obviously thought people would pack their tents up and leave them at the gate, but no, they just left them standing. My job involved a lot of driving around the site on the last day, and I lost count of the number of people I hollered at to take the ****ing **** with them!
     
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    I don’t understand the mindset behind it. If you can carry it in with all the beer etc too, you can certainly take it out again. Plus, you now have a tent for camping or your next festival! I’ve been one of the last groups to leave a festival before as ‘punters’ and have gained plenty of perfectly good/pretty much brand new camping gear thanks to the wastefulness of others.
     
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    I suppose it’s the same mindset that prompts people to pay £1500 on top of their ticket to camp in a tent that someone else has put up for them.

    Don’t get me wrong, a lot, maybe a majority, of Glasto veterans, especially those of my generation, are perfectly behaved and clear up behind themselves, but the vast acres of vile nastiness is created by mainly the first-timers and those who don’t give a **** about anything but their own pleasure.
     
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    Just locked the hens up and saw this:

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    Seems that I'm going to be the purveyor of bad news today. Tyre Particulates - it's the little wear particles that come off the car tyre at all times and is the evidence of wear. It comes in many sizes, from little lumps to floating particulates that get into the lungs. And a fair proportion of it is carcinogenic. And driving an EV around doesn't stop this one. In one or two cases it can actually be worse.

    What's worse, when tyres are recycled, they can be ground up into little synthetic rubber pellets and certain particle sizes are spread over astroturf football pitches. As a result, in the EU [Netherlands and Belguim I believe] this has been diagnosed as directly leading to luekemia in two woman goalkeepers who died as a result. The pitches have since been ripped up. I'd like to know what the practice is at Southampton FC.
     
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    Any links for this TSS please? My company use reclaimed carbon from old tyres in one of our products. It is promoted as “green” because it is made from 96% recycled content. The bad stuff may well be removed before we touch it, but I’d like to check what they think is the bad stuff.
     
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    The info I came up with there is from a succession of links, so the best thing I can do is get you to listen to this youtube video from Fully Charged Live. Basically, four experts in various fields around the subject talk about tyre particulates. There's quite a bit more info than I provided too with my initial post. I'm on my phone here so tell me if the link works. If not, I'll get on a PC later today:
     
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    Very interesting link to Enso Tyres website. They are working towards sustainable tyres for electrical vehicles: https://ensotyres.com/
    Incidentally, I think I saw that Michelin are developing an airless tyre that is sustainable. Don't ask for a link because I won't remember where I read that. I read loads of stuff which I just gather to round out my knowledge.

    BTW, I don't want people to be freaked out by the video in the previous post. We'e been doing this for decades. I'm confident this can be minimised, if not removed completely.
    Final BTW. If you've ever felt uncomfortable about seeing enthusiasts, racers, etc, doing tyre burnouts [I've always f*****g hated it] then you can really feel uncomfortable now that you have some understanding.
     
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    We all use Youtube to some degree. We all have our goto videos, I'm sure. Mine tend to be Information, Technology and Environment based. With a smattering of Steve Colbert. I've no idea what mix of subjects you choose from. I also have little idea of how aware you are as to the environment. I'd be horrified if you know absolutely nothing and have no desire to know anything either. But if you do wish to know something, but don't know where to go, try this channel:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRBwLPbXGsI2cJe9W1zfSjQ

    It's called JUST HAVE A THINK, and it is probably the easiest, most digestible, informative and non-alarmist channel on the environment that I've ever come across. The owner/presenter Dave Borlace is the most mild mannered nice guy you're likely to come across. He doesn't ram a single thing down your throat or beat any agenda drum. So if there is a single environmental channel on Youtube I would ask you to subscribe to, it's this one. I'm not going to provide an example video here, I want you to go there and subscribe. Even if it is to build up his numbers only. He then gets a bigger presence on Youtube and we need that. So, go on. Hit that link.
     
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    Bad joke of the day
     
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