Off Topic Politics Thread

These two short videos summarise things well:

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Reeks of brown envelopes and dodgy deals, that whole thing.

 

Two good videos. This stuff was reasonably plain BEFORE the EU referendum vote for anyone who bothered to do the research, but made much plainer here Independent experts** on the european community did say about it. Of course, id I remember correctly, there were people who suggested that people should NOT LISTEN to the experts. These were the leaver politicians^^.

**Expert - A person with a high degree of skill in or knowledge of a certain subject.
^^Politician - One who is actively involved or skilled in politics, especially one who holds a political office. Also, One who deceives or outmanoeuvres others for personal gain.

Under the circumstances, even if you knew nothing [which is irresponsible and wreckless] who would you trust?

And, by the way, The video would have to cut off Scotland as well. They'll Remain as soon as they get a chance to decide.

Finally, it's why I've never wanted a deal. It's REMAIN, warts and all. And improve the situation from within.

 

You mean he´ll sound as if he comes from Gosport!!!!!

 

So the offending lady landed herself in heaps of trouble, then?

 

Lets put it this way the lady was not the most popular.............She learned in the good old fashioned way I wasn't an Aussie..........I have a feeling her car insurance went up quite a bit too. My wife's car is a Merc so you can imagine it cost her a pretty penny. (Although she said she would pay for it direct if we wanted) with a bill over 5 grand no I think we're glad we didn't take her up on her offer..........

 

I was using a Sydney expression to say that the lady was in loads of trouble.

 

You could say that............To quote a bush quote she was in a load of ****..........

 

John Crace has a go at Hunt:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-mutates-into-kamikaze-kurtz?CMP=share_btn_fb

 

For the last 3 years I've been saying it can't get any worse, it can't get any worse, and everyday it does. Imps has been made CEO of Amazon so he doesn't come here anymore to cheer me up and now anybody thinks they can post. I haven't heard anything about neo-liberalism for ages!

 

Surprise, surprise, Britain faces a skills shortage:
https://www.irishtimes.com/business...rexit-s-fault-1.3942149#.XRm2v79Lo08.facebook

 

No. Who would have thought it?
Just about anyone with a modicum of common sense.

 

Out of a population of 65 million, and there is a skills shortage?? Something not quite right within the UK education and vocational training system for this to happen.

Take for example mathematics. A mathematician would find a career that is much better paid, and with more possibilities than being involved in teaching. So there´s a skills shortage in that sector. Here in Mallorca the children are bi-lingual in Catalan and Spanish and all have an ability to communicate at some level in English. In the UK the primary school teacher has to be an expert in every subject but may struggle to be a teacher of French, and the children may receive a French lesson perhaps for an hour a week. Here in Mallorca the children receive at least 3 English lessons a week, and some subjects are delivered in English as well. So we have a lack of bi and multi-lingual people that would benefit many sectors.

Then there is the matter of careers advice. I know from experience that some children found their niche only when they were guided towards a career as a technician, a car mechanic or something like that. I think some on here have alluded to the problems of apprenticeships with employers taking on an apprentice. However, someone correct me on that.

 

I was talking about this the other day with my grandson.........he is an apprenticed carpenter. I was asking what all his mates did after they left school. I calculate from what he said that there were about nine that he was the closest too. One stayed on and went to college.........three work at Sainsburys and Tesco and the like.......2 he thinks have never worked.........1 has joined a fair somewhere he thinks and the other has just disappeared. He was saying as far as he knows from his whole school year that left the same day as him only one other has taken an apprenticeship. (he used to see him on his day release at college. When I asked why he thought so few took up an apprenticeship..........He said a Lot of them thought an apprenticeship was just an excuse for cheap labour......Honest that is what he said. Is this a common thing? Is this really what the youngsters think nationally?
I am pleased to say all my grandsons took up apprenticeships. (another three boys) All my Granddaughters went to college or are going to college and at least two of the younger ones are talking about going to university. I'm so proud of them all.

 

It’s because we have been fully integrated with Europe for over 40 years and have come to rely on getting skilled workers from other EU countries. They have always been very happy to come here, but now with the uncertainty over Brexit many are leaving. Even the ones who want to stay are finding it difficult, I heard only today about a Spanish teacher who has worked in this country for over 20 years being denied Settled Status so she will have to leave if Brexit happens. This is apparently quite common, just like the millions of EU citizens resident here who were denied a vote in the EU Parliamentary elections.

Of course you’re right, we should have been training our own skilled workers all this time and we have, just not enough of them. And don’t forget about the hundreds of thousands of skilled British workers who live in other EU countries, who may not come back here. I certainly wouldn’t blame them if they didn’t, our country is becoming an increasingly vindictive, mean, and nasty place to be.

 

I'm embarrassed

 

Oh strewth alive what have we done..........We want to negotiate with the EU and we insult them like this????.............If I was an EU member I would propose banning the lot of them for desecration or something!

 

The most ridiculous and shaming thing is that even if we end up staying in the EU, we will be stuck with that bunch of utter cretins representing us for the next 5 YEARS!!

 

And to think they are getting paid a good salary to be members of this Parliament.

 

And not one of them will refuse that salary, you can be sure of that.

Still, at least we’ll soon have a new PM, someone who can doubtless be relied upon to represent us with dignity and...oh.

Not a good time to be British.