Reports in the newspapers today that the Tories are already holding secret meetings with Farage. Boris could win a GE with Brexit Party assistance. Farage would be in the Brexit negotiating team as quid pro quo.
I think that you will find that you can burn a national flag in your own garden Goldie - as long as it does not pollute the atmosphere (like eg. rubber tyres), and as long as you tell the local fire brigade first. Burning of national flags in public places is a different thing - firstly because lighting a fire of any sort on the streets is not allowed (even without the flag), and secondly because the public burning of a national flag is going to be a part of a more general public disturbance. Try starting a fire of any sort on the streets in London and it will not go unpunished. This is a German law which the state of Saxony wanted to extend to also include the EU flag (ie. placing it on the same status as a national flag) - where have you seen that Germany wants to impose this law on the rest of the EU ? By the way - freedom of expression does not include public arson - not even in the UK.
Funny you say that because I remember some geezer knocking the head off Maggie Thatcher in Madame Tausauds in London - as I remember he got a year behind bars for it.
But there are two types of Labour voter, isn’t there? There’s the salt of the earth, blue collar, working men’s club types with cloth caps, pigeons and the habit of saying ‘appen at the end of every sentence, and there’s the right-on, liberal socialist, geography teacher types, wearying corduroy jackets with faux leather elbow patches. Heaven forbid Flint puts the will of her constituency over that of the party politburo. There are irreparable divisions in the blue corner too. Neither is fit for purpose anymore. Where’s Screaming Lord Sutch when you need him, ‘appen?
Farage I agree does talk well ... far better than any of them however the fact that he is a mass hypocrite and a nasty **** to boot plus the politics are also wrong makes me turn away. Nothing to handle with the EU this is the problem that not many seem to grasp . I hope they chuck the U.K. out we will see both Boris and Farage then attempt to claim a victory It’s when they may have to run a country that we will see them fail. Is there any plans about yet for post Brexit? The sheep are only interested in today’s news anyway ... what a diet! The Boris girlfriend story seriously what does it matter if she lives or dies no one knew about her a week ago She must be some very thick **** to get involved with the clown ... any love there does anyone seriously reckon ? I doubt it as love should be unconditional imo and rule everything
If you can’t find your Sutch when you need him most then good for you as you are the right path No one will know where lyeth their Sutch and a friend will lose a friends hammer
I don't think the EU will chuck us out, much as Brexit stalemate frustrates them - they have a trade surplus with us. We're a difficult and important customer they can't afford to lose. I think you're right about Carrie Symonds. She wanted success and fame as an actress. She's got the latter as Boris's girlfriend. It can't last long. Question is, how many broken plates and personal life front pages before it explodes all over a Camberwell Street. Boris's advisors must be tearing their hair out. Won't be surprised if they set him up in a bachelor pad in Chelsea.
Why on earth do all leavers hate the EU so much? What have they done that has directly affected their lives? Has anybody on here had their lives directly harmed by the EU? It's just pathetic how the whole debate has become skewed by the swivel eyed ! Thirty years of tabloid lies has led to this ridiculous comparison between the EU and Nazi Germany! Completely absurd and now we are going to have a proven liar in charge of our neogotiations!
We've had all those arguments, but feel free to re-visit them all. The result was leave my friend. Nothing swivel eyed about that.
Coffee House The moral arrogance of the Mansion House climate protestors Brendan O'Neill please log in to view this image please log in to view this image A protestor, Mansion House Brendan O'Neill In last night’s scuffle between Conservative MP Mark Field and a Greenpeace protester, which of them was really behaving in an entitled manner? The story is that it was Field, there in his black tie, drinking and chortling with bankers at a fancy dinner as the Chancellor of the Exchequer gave a speech on the state of British politics. The way Field grabbed the protester by the neck before marching her out of the opulent room is being held up as symbolic of Tory arrogance and privilege. Labour MPs are calling for him to resign. Some even want the police involved, to teach these cocksure men of the entitled Tory party a lesson. But in truth, it wasn’t Field who displayed colossal levels of entitlement last night — it was the protesters. It was these increasingly smug and disruptive climate activists who behaved in a morally arrogant fashion. These campaigners are now so singularly convinced of their moral righteousness, so sure that it is they and they alone who understand the problems facing humanity, that they think they can go anywhere and do anything and the rest of us should just bow down and listen to their End of Days preaching about the wickedness of mankind and the nastiness of economic growth. In their alarm that someone dared to stop them for once – in this case, Field – we can glimpse the misplaced certitude and creeping dogmatism of the environmentalist movement. This is not to say that Mark Field behaved appropriately. He absolutely did not. He was far too rough. It is unacceptable for a man to grab a woman by the neck except in extreme circumstances, for example if the woman poses a clear and direct threat to the man in question or somebody else. There were other ways he could have helped to escort the woman from the dinner. And he knows this. He has apologised unreservedly to the protester and expressed regret at what he describes as his instinctual attempt to remove someone who he thought posed a potential threat to the Chancellor and others. He made an error of judgement in how he executed this instinct to protect. And yet there’s so much hypocrisy in the attacks on Field. Labour MP Dawn Butler has called for him to be sacked. Her colleague Jess Phillips says his behaviour was ‘so so awful’. These MPs are among those who frequently raise concerns about the threat posed to politicians in today’s volatile political climate. They and others will often refer to the murder of Jo Cox as an example of what can happen when individuals come to hate politicians so much. Indeed, I took part in a discussion with Jess Phillips earlier this year in which she condemned the right-wing protesters who stood outside the Commons for a few weeks shouting stupid and mean things at Anna Soubry and other MPs. And yet now some MPs seem to be suggesting that the Greenpeace protester should have been let through… to do what, precisely? Lecture Mr Hammond? Scream at him? Is that her right? Given this was a private dinner, many people would say ‘No’. Mark Field may have lost his sense of perspective momentarily last night, but many of his critics seem to be ditching their own sense of perspective and their belief that politicians face many dangers today. Let’s think about what happened at last night’s dinner at Mansion House in the City. Dozens of protesters breached security. They stormed into a room in which the second most powerful person in the country was due to speak. One of them made a beeline for that person. Given we are constantly told that politicians are at risk of abuse and even assault, isn’t it just a tiny bit understandable that Field acted on instinct to eject the protesters? Imagine this scenario: Diane Abbott is giving an after-dinner speech. On immigration, perhaps. Dozens of protesters who dislike mass immigration storm the room, start shouting, and one of them rushes towards Abbott. Do you think Labour MPs and the commentariat would respond to such an event by insisting on the right of protesters to confront political figures? Get real. They would condemn the protesters as a threat to MPs’ safety. And yet when it comes to Hammond and the Tories more broadly, apparently they should just let people rock up, disrupt everything, and lecture everyone about their pet cause. Why the double standard? Because these protesters were green. And green protesters can do whatever the hell they like. They have become almost gods in the political pantheon. They are treated as dispensers of humanity-saving wisdom that the rest of us must slavishly listen to. Refuse to do that and you are a ‘denier’ of their gospel truth. Indeed, the only remarkable thing about last night is that climate activists disrupted a posh black-tie dinner. Normally they disrupt the daily lives of ordinary people, whether by blocking runways or motorways or gluing themselves to public transport. Mark Field behaved wrongly in that moment — but the overblown reaction to his behaviour tells us a broader story about the double standards of the left and the astonishing sense of entitlement among climate-change agitators.
well he did say a firmer grip was needed with the climate protesters please log in to view this image please log in to view this image
Avoid the question if you must, seriously what has the EU done that upsets all you lot so much? Over seventy years of peace in Western Europe, the longest period in history, countries getting along with each other, coming together to face the economic challenge from China and the US, Trump, Putin and and the Chinese are the biggest Brexit supporters of the lot because it puts them way ahead of Europe. Just shoot yourselves in the foot and then try to explain how it's a great benefit!
You'll need to go back and find the responses to what you're saying. As I said, we've done it all to death.
