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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

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    I honestly wish I knew. But sadly, imho, this could very well be the case.
    Maybe ‘cos they aren’t actually ‘far right’ in the traditional sense of the BNP and NF ?
     
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    Fair point. It depends whether Boris (I assume it's him) needs accommodation from Farage. In once Labour dominated areas, the Tories could back off to let Brexit win, in return for Brexit not diluting Tory votes in tight margin constituencies between Tory and Labour
     
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  3. Stroller

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    They're far right like UKIP were far right. Would you vote for Johnson to get Brexit through?
     
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    Do it Stainsey. It’ll bring the revolution forward.
     
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    We’ve already done that one Stroller.
    No I wouldn’t. Thats why, even though I am firmly in the Leave camp, I couldn’t bring myself to vote Brexit party in the Euro elections.

    I think maybe our interpretations or ‘right’ and ‘far-right’ might differ.
     
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    Sad for me as I really thought our time had come.[/QUOTE]
    Dont count your chickens mate. There are a lot of labour supporters still up North , many working class aswell. The Tories do **** all for us up here!
     
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    Dont count your chickens mate. There are a lot of labour supporters still up North , many working class aswell. The Tories do **** all for us up here![/QUOTE]

    Yes, but what if (unlike you) they're passionate Leave voters, and Corbyn comes out for a second referendum with a recommendation to vote Remain (which is what Tom Watson wants)

    Are they going to continue to vote Labour? I can't see it.
     
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    In the context of being Tory Party leader it was suicidal...
     
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    Yes, but what if (unlike you) they're passionate Leave voters, and Corbyn comes out for a second referendum with a recommendation to vote Remain (which is what Tom Watson wants)

    Are they going to continue to vote Labour? I can't see it.[/QUOTE]

    Got there before me......Brexit has, quite wrongly in my opinion, become centre in many peoples mind and become the major factor in how many people vote. I can only see Labour losing much of its support.
     
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    If that were the case, Labour would have to promise a further referendum and come to a similar GE arrangement with the Lib Dems.
     
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    Exactly. All the signs are Labour will come out for a second referendum
     
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    It's bollocks to call the Brexit party "far right".
     
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    Let’s wait until they have a policy in addition to Brexit. I’ve not been paying attention, any hints yet?
     
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    Not really.
    I guess what I meant was, millions of people vote for the Brexit party for one reason and it isn't far right imo.
    The BNP and now the new UKIP are definitely far right and racist ****ers imo.
     
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    Well, in April Farage said that the Brexit Party’s policies were identical to UKIP’s, but the personnel were ‘very different’.

    But I agree that nobody voted for them on any other issue than getting Brexit done, and this doesn’t make Brexit Party voters, to date, right or any other wing.

    The only other thing that they have been keen to talk about is their disdain for ‘career politicians’. What the hell Farage and Widdicombe are other than career politicians is beyond me.
     
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    Did you not read the pen pictures of Brexit Party EU election candidates that I posted?

    Far right is a perfectly fair description of that rabble, and of Farage too I might say.
     
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    Yes, but what if (unlike you) they're passionate Leave voters, and Corbyn comes out for a second referendum with a recommendation to vote Remain (which is what Tom Watson wants)

    Are they going to continue to vote Labour? I can't see it.[/QUOTE]
    Probably not but it will most likely regain those who chose to vote lib dems in the euros.
     
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    Come on Stroller, don’t become one of those twats who call everyone on the right a ‘nazi’ or ‘fascist’.

    Save it for the real ‘far right’ like Combat 18, LOSG and National Action
     
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    Probably not but it will most likely regain those who chose to vote lib dems in the euros.[/QUOTE]


    May do.
     
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    Well if Corbyn and McDonnel are 'far left' according to many on here, I reserve the right to label UKIP and the Brexit Party far right.

    I believe they are.
     
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