Off Topic Politics Thread

If Jacob Rees Mogg is to be believed, if won’t just be “in the meantime” but potentially for up to 50 years.
Which means that those with money will find even more ways to exploit those without, making them even richer and the poor even poorer.

 

Meanwhile, people will continue to moan about their lot in life. Tory politicians will urge the umemployed to 'get a job' whilst explaining that 'the country can't afford...' And this has all been created because, let's be frank, the dozy, ill-informed general public had a new lie dangled in front of them and they fell for it. Anyone could have seen through the crap had they bothered for 30 seconds to try.
We've only got ourselves to blame. The top 1% must be chuckling about how easy it has all been.

 

Oh if only Corbyn would step down .........then we could have a debate on the leadership candidates for the Labour Party. Tell you what though its doubtful the candidates would fare any better than the quangos from last night!!

 

Tom Watson 'seems' to have an intelligent head on his shoulders, to me. But if I even mention his name approvingly to people it's as if I've commited some grave sin.

 

I watched the debate last night with interest. i thought Boris was unimpressive so have switched my allegiance to Raab.

 

This is the same Dominic Raab who didn’t realise that trade across the English Channel was quite important?

 

And who has already been eliminated from the contest! Thank the lord for the small mercies.

 

Lovely piece from John Crace in the Grauniad, comparing the debate to a reunion of an ageing boy band, Take Twat:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-to-hit-all-the-wrong-notes?CMP=share_btn_fb

 

sigh

 

Jesus... you've got to despair,

 

The Empires not dead mate, only now it's called the Cricket World Cup

 

We’ll lose that as well

 

If we went back to the empire and did it democratically we would be ruled by
India as they have more population than the rest of the commonwealth combined.

 

We weren't before why would we be now???

 

Because the empire wasn't a democracy... The commonwealth has democratic members but has no democratic institutions.

If the commonwealth copied the UK's democracy or even the EU's then India would have a majority of MP's.

 

I'm going to sigh again in a minute (but I started it so mustn't grumble)

 

As far as I know when the commonwealth actually existed as such the UK was always the rulling party as such. Each country sends its own representatives to any meetings. They are usually members of each governement or have I got that wrong?

 

Depends if you call leaders negotiating democracy. That's the part of what the EU does that the leavers are complaining about being anti democratic. The EU combines this with direct democracy to prevent things getting pushed through by unelected ruling classes. Either method I call more democratic than countries acting without consultation with others whom its actions affect.

The problem is with simply having nations representatives negotiate on equal terms is that you are effectively saying that an Indian person has 1/20th of the voice of a British person in those negotiations.

That doesn't mean it's not the best way for independent nations to negotiate but the system is unbalanced and not particularly democratic.

Putting the EU up against India at least brings the disparity down to 2 - 1 and we have much more similar ideals with the EU than India.

But if you want us to have a load of poorer nations to exploit then it's certainly better than having the EU with its democratic institutions and court that protects its citizens and buisnesses rights.

 

Sorry not understanding this????