VAR - Good or Bad

does it
A/ improve the game - avoid incorrect offsides decisions , as we suffered last season , or

B/ Kill the game - take away spontaneity and encourage refs to use it rather than making decisions themselves.

 

What is the game? The game formerly did not have tiers of rules. Football from humble Sunday league XI's to top leagues had the same rules, now it doesn't.

VAR itself was supposed to be used for obvious errors, it isn't. MSL football appears to review half the goals being scored.

 

From watching the Nations League games it is definitely B for me. The decisions took way to long, and quite frankly the officials will start to get lazy if they have a catch all with VAR.

To me VAR should only be looking at did the ball cross the line for a goal, or a penalty appeal that might be missed - if its used for every tug/push during a dead ball situation (as against Callum Wilson v Switzerland), there will be no more goals from corners, free kicks and throw-ins, as almost every single one of those involves a tussle for the ball, and therefore a foul - it will kill the game if used like that!!!

Look at cricket, the on-field umpires almost always go to the third umpire for a run out, never check no ball any more, they just wait for the third umpire to do the work.

 

I think initially it will have teething troubles as already highlighted but as it people become more used to using it will be a benefit once everyone has adapted.

 

if like USA it gets to be like an AF game ...repeated stops etc ......our 90 minute game could last for 2 1/2 hours or more already a 90 minute game is 2 hours and bearing in mind most of the season is not sunshine and balmy nights … 10x 2min breaks is adding on another 20 mins disruption … appeals for a penalty turned down by the ref with a breakaway that could be a goal at the other end gets stopped … appeal turned down .. by var … so do they restart the game with players at the point the var was instigated … the breakaway attacking players up the pitch and likely to score!! … or do they give the ball to the goalie to take a free kick ….. or is it a drop ball in the penalty area!!! or do they start from the centre circle.... just asking

 

Thought you knew that VAR is only checked when the ball is dead!

 

All for it myself-cost us lots of points last season.

 

The lack of it last season cost us a lot more than just points.

 

No it did not. The entire league had no VAR. So there can be no cost in points when each team was in an equal position.

 

I can only comment on Bristol City FC penalty's not given, goals disallowed,off sides when onside.

Cost us a fortune in points.

 

Again that is incorrect with respect. You are referring to uncontrollables. These uncontrollables affect all. There are no measures to alter that as the measure in question (VAR) is possessed by no clubs. When uncontrollables have been studied and they have in football, the algorithm concludes there is no cost in points = The uncontrollables you refer to affect teams in equal measures = No cost in points.

 

You lost me a bit there Clifton, I guess what you are trying to say is , over the season the decisions that go against you are levelled our by the ones that go in your favour . So yes we had goals/ decisions made incorrectly against us, but they would be balanced out by ones that incorrectly went in our favour ?

My description is just as confusing as yours , but I think I get your point. Lol

 

Yes but it goes further to all teams. Coaching blurb refers to controllables and uncontrollables. The latter is luck and luck cannot be controlled.
Poor decisions (bad luck) affect all. And when this has been studied it has been found its equal. It does not cost any team points because no team has more bad luck than any other.

 

Bad luck may well even itself out, but does "bad luck" include referee's big team bias, or is that a myth as well?

You can't dismiss the decisions taken by match officials influenced by favour no matter how impartial they're supposed to be - it happens time and time again.

VAR will help control that untangible and produce a far more level playing field for all its' suggested drawbacks.

 

If it gets rid of diving (review of penalty decisions) and blatantly wrong offsides (for and against) it will be worth it.

VAR doesn't just need to be used when the ball is dead, TMO can review as things go along, its what happens in rugby. Ref uncertain of foul play, asks TMO to review as the game goes on. 10 seconds later, a whisper in the year and the game goes on or gets pulled back.

Not sure why the footy lot are making it so difficult. Goal line technology has got rid of the did it cross the line or didn't it debate. The game doesn't get stopped for that. The rest can be checked as the game goes on.

Pushing and pulling in penalty areas should be easy. Ref plays on unless the TMO tells him there's been foul play.

 

Will the ref still know what happened when he gets the whisper in a years time?

 

Close.
Shouldn't really take that long.

So long as the the whispers aren't sweet nothings in his ear.

 

Yes.

 

appeals for a penalty turned down by the ref with a breakaway that could be a goal at the other end gets stopped … appeal turned down .. by var … 1 side of the argument, other side is as you say only when ball is dead … so other team score ..[ last minute of the game, its the winner and they get promoted by winning and on goal difference ….. no VAR NOW SAYS penalty …! ]

 

Sorry struggling to make sense of this! but play doesn't get stopped for a VAR review, did you see the Portugal v Switzerland game