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Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Cyclonic, May 17, 2015.

  1. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    I think if he loses the rematch then he's done. I don't think there is a way back he just becomes another David Price
     
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  2. TopClass

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    That’s why I’m surprised they’ve put him straight back in.

    I’m now beginning to wonder whether Eddie is as smart as he needs to be.
     
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  3. Ron

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    Pathetic. That's all I can say. He is finished Frank Bruno ii
     
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  4. Cyclonic

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    I think fast car Eddie has his head screwed on alright Toppy, this return fight is about short term goals. I don't know the legalities surrounding the Joshua - Ruiz contract or whether PBC can hold off Matchroom and possibly deliver Ruiz into the hands of his stablemate Deontay Wilder, but you can bet your life that Hearn will pull out all stops to keep Joshua at the head of the queue. For Matchroom, it's boom or bust. Those hundred million dollar nights will be distant memories if Joshua can't get the business done.
     
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  5. TopClass

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    <laugh>get off that fence Ron!

    Do you genuinely think he was fit and well to fight that night based on what you saw?
     
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  6. Dancingbraveforever

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    Bit harsh Ron. Its It's obvious you don't like him at all.
     
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  7. Dancingbraveforever

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    I'm pretty much done with the heavyweights, unless a Mike Tyson mk2 or another Jack Dempsey comes along.

    Far better fights get made at the lower weights anyway
     
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  8. Cyclonic

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    I can't argue with D.B. <ok>
     
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  9. Ron

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    Agree it's a bit harsh DB but that was a rather pathetic display by Joshua. He looked scared once he was caught after knocking Ruiz down. It was like the school bully getting a good hiding and didn't know what to do. I have supported him in every fight but have always said that he is a pedestrian, orthodox, boxer very much like Frank Bruno and will get kod sooner or later. I didn't expect it to be that soon nor in such a disappointing manner. I can't see him coming back from that against anyone with fast hands and a solid chin
     
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  10. Dancingbraveforever

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    Personally, I wouldn't use the word pathetic for anybody with the cojones to step into boxing ring.
     
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  11. Ron

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    Understand that DB. It's just how I felt about it. He was supposed to do the business and was afraid to continue the fight. I will take it all back if it is discovered he was drugged or was put in the ring against his will for whatever reason
     
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  12. smokethedeadbadger

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    I think you're being a bit harsh on Frank Bruno to be honest. You're saying you thought that Joshua quit well big Frank despite all his flaws was all heart so comparing the two off the back of that performance does Frank a bit of a disservice
     
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  13. Ron

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    I didn't say Bruno was a quitter smokey. I was referring to their boxing styles and suspect chins. You're right, Bruno never quitted; put to sleep but never quitted <ok>
     
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  14. Dancingbraveforever

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    He possibly may have hit his ceiling of ability and fortitude. I don't think anybody has ever said he was unbeatable or infallible.

    Roberto Duran quit against SRL. Now I'm pretty sure that nobody in their right mind wouldn't consider him to be one the of P4P greatest ever.
     
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  15. smokethedeadbadger

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    No Mas, what an era, wish I'd lived through it. Apologies to anyone who I e now made to feel old
     
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  16. Dancingbraveforever

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    Judging by your profile pic I would guess you were in your 40's-50's when that fight happened.
     
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    Haha unfortunately not, just a big fan of the sport and I like my boxing history. I'm 37 so definitely way too young to have witnessed the fella from my profile. Although my wife did meet him a few years ago, so I am the proud owner of a boxing glove signed by him.
     
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  18. Cyclonic

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    Age is a double edged sword isn't it? It allows us old folk the luxury of seeing more of those great events of the past, but I have to admit, it's of little comfort compared to what advanced age does to our bodies.

    Being the son of an ex amateur boxer, us kids grew up with an appreciation of the sport. I was 13 when Ali beat Liston for the title in 1964 and remember being impressed by my father's admiration of the way the great man broke the mold as far as heavyweights were concerned. Ali moved like no other man in that class. And none has since. So I have lots of viewing years under my belt. I've been lucky enough to have felt the build up and euphoria that gripped a heap of the great sporting events of the past, and those memories still fill me with warmth. I think the one fight that really sticks with me though, is that wonderful night at Madison Square Garden in March of 1971 when "Smokin"Joe Frazier put his WBA & WBC Titles on the line against Muhammad Ali. That the fight took place nearly 50 years ago, and I'm still filled with admiration for the two combatants, shows how pitiful a life I've led. <laugh>
     
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    Some interesting thoughts from David Haye on what A.J. needs if he's to turn things around. Advance to the 6 minute mark.

     
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    AJ does not like being ruffed up. I suspect Hay, in his prime, may have KOd AJ, purely on his speed and punching power. Haye, very honest and makes a lot of sense. Of course, when he fought Bellew, he couldn't rely on his speed because Bellew was faster (and Haye had slowed)
     
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