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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    The troops were welcomed by the Nationalists then to protect them from the worse excesses of Unionism - pólice harassment, being denied to right to demonstrate because they were denied the vote. Things turned when the Tories got back in, in 1970.
     
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  2. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

    I Sorry I Ruined The Party Well-Known Member

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    And there it is. Now do you see how much less stupid and bigoted you sounded when you just talked about “immigrants?” I almost had you sounding reasonable for a few posts there.

    No, you probably don’t see it. Well, I tried. Bless your heart, we got a real firecracker here.
     
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  3. Onionman

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    You didn't get us into this mess. The mess was caused by people who called a referendum and those who lied credibly enough to convince people it was straightforward to leave and would lead to sunlit uplands rather than this hellhole.

    The answer to your question? By waiting until we get another vote and voting to remain in the EU.

    Vin
     
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  4. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    You are probably right Vin...........However I was convinced as was pretty well everyone that the stayers would win on the last one. This is why we're in this mess isn't it. No-one was prepared for an out vote. If that is the way we go let's just hope that which ever way it goes it is legally binding. That way perhaps we will get out of this mess once and for all, and get this country going again..........
     
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  5. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    One way the country can move forward is for the Conservatives to stop trying to be a versión of the "Brexit" party, and become a more responsible, normal, mainstream Conservative party within the EPP block of Conservatives in the EU. That should be the way forward for the future leader of the UK Conservatives to map out. And if it means p****** off the likes of Rees-Mogg so much the better.
     
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  6. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    A remarkable win for Labour in the Peterborough by-election, beating the Brexit Party by 683 votes. A cynic might think that the people of Peterborough believe Labour has a better chance of delivering Brexit than Farage’s crew. Hopefully that wasn’t the reason Labour won, but time will tell.
     
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  7. Onionman

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    From a letter delivered to Theresa May today by Farage:

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    Proof of what I warned Imps earlier in the thread. Give your mandate to a party with no manifesto and they can do literally anything in your name.

    Vin
     
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  8. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    One way the country can move forward is for the Conservative Party to stop putting itself first, all the time, and the country second.
     
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  9. Saints_Alive

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    Without the stitch up of the last constituency boundary changes the bastards wouldn't still be in power.

    How the hell does half of the old Eastleigh constituency count in Southampton Itchen unless it favours the Tories.
     
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  10. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Indeed. Well mine is a personal cracker. Way back, I used to be within the boundaries of Southampton Test. Represented by Alan Whitehead. Fine. Then boundary changes came and suddenly I was in landslide terri 'tory' Romsey & Southampton North. Unrepresented by Caroline Nokes. The old house hadn't moved an inch.
     
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  11. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Can anyone tell me why these boundary changes were made? The reasons given for the changes?
     
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  12. Qwerty

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    That Boris Johnson private summons was quashed. The conspiracy runs deep.
     
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  13. VocalMinority

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    There's no conspiracy <doh>
     
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  14. benditlikeabanana

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    And yet it was you that was racist and bigoted by claiming that only white Christians can be against immigration, I can see now that you have nothing else to offer as I do not like to converse with hateful people so you can toddle off to space space and cuddle up with your blankie
     
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  15. Beddy

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    Come on IsIr and bendit.........let’s not go down the road of calling each other names please........let’s agree to disagree and leave it at that please.........
     
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  16. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

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    I never said any such thing. Lots of people can be against immigration for all sorts of reasons. It's just that Trump/Johnson/Farage followers are specfically against "immigration" for only one reason.

    I don't think you understand. I'm happy to talk about this. It's YOU that is calling ME hateful and refusing to converse. Which means it is you that is going off to a safe space. Do you follow this? You're implying I will do the thing that you are already doing. This is what is called "projection" in psychology.

    And this also explains the whole "immigration" thing in a nutshell. People who are bigots get extremely offended at being called out, and they turn it around on others. It's a reversal of cause and effect, and subject and object.

    I am sure you often say things like "People call me a wrong/racist/bigoted just because I disagree with their views. So that makes them the bad guys." But no, it's actually "I find your views to be wrong/racist/bigoted and that's why I disagree with them. I disagree with you because you are indeed, the bad guy."

    You ask why the left just talks about immigrants without distinguishing among them. I said fine, let's talk about immigrants more specifically. It took like what? two posts for it to devolve into something about Mexicans being drunks. And then the next post, I'm a hateful person who you won't talk to.

    THAT'S why we just talk about "immigration." It's an attempt to keep the conversation at a minimally acceptable level. We shouldn't do it, because just enables them. But we're not heroes and we don't like making people feel bad, or making others on a message board suffer through these horrible posts.

    So this is the last I'm going to say about, because you asked, and because I feel somewhat morally obligated to help you. The news you read is fake. The people who write them are liars. Your right wing bubble is the safest of all possible spaces where you not only insulate yourself from those who might disagree with you, but from objective reality itself. You probably won't believe a thing I'm telling you, unfortunately. But think about it.
     
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  17. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

    I Sorry I Ruined The Party Well-Known Member

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    Sorry man. No can do. Did you see his post? I don't think we should have a politics thread in a football forum. But if you're going to have one, and people are going to use it to spout racism, I'm going to tell them they are racist. If you need to ban me for that, I guess go ahead.
     
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  18. Beddy

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    Come on mate listen to me don’t force us to do something we don’t want to do.. we are all letting this Brexit thing get the better of us. Please see my pm
     
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  19. fatletiss

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    Neddy have you just said Brexit is getting the better of an American and a bloke who lives in Columbia???

    Brexit must be worse than I feared <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  20. Beddy

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    Dont you bloody start Fatso...........<laugh>
     
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