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Match Day Thread Spurs v Liverpool

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, May 31, 2019.

  1. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Then he rolled it down his arm like Meadowlark
     
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  2. Barchullona

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    Before it hit his arm which was still stuck out. If that had involved City I would have wanted a penalty, as no doubt everyone else on here.
     
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  3. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    So, he shouldn’t have put a cross in and tried to dribble round him instead?
     
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  4. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Why?
     
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  5. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Because people are claiming he was aiming for him in order to get a penalty. Which is jolly unsporting and not cricket.
     
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  6. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Ah
    I think it’s simply playing to the rules so no problem for me
    Same as deliberately kicking it at someone to get a throw in
     
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  7. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    Having not seen it, I would get up at 3 am to watch City but not Liverpool or Spurs, then I didn't miss much by all accounts.

    As far as it goes delighted for Robbo, and at least an English team won it again.
     
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  8. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    You said he couldn’t avoid hitting his arm. He did, he hit his chest.
     
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  9. Ernie Shackleton

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    By the current rules of the game it was a penalty. Playing for such by kicking the ball towards a defenders arm is increasingly becoming a tactic because of the current interpretation of the rules and VAR.

    Increasingly we are seeing defenders challenging with both arms behind their backs, like a member of the royal family inspecting a phalanx of minor foreign dignitaries. It looks silly and isn’t particularly effective.


    Two things seem to have been forgotten recently. Firstly handball should be hand to ball and not ball to hand and secondly handball needs to be intentional.

    Referees, fourth officials and VAR deliberators would do well to remember this.
     
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  10. Barchullona

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    It was blocking the trajectory of the ball as it was in an unnatural position and wouldn’t have hit his arm after being deflected if not in that position. Not that I am particularly bothered but if that incident had happened in a
    City game we would all have been shouting for a penalty not telling the ref he shouldn't give it,
     
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  11. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    “Unnatural position” is one of the most meaningless & stupidest phrases in football.

    Some natural arm positions

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    An unnatural arm position

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  12. Barchullona

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    That is what it is based on nowadays. VAR confirmed the decision. As I keep saying if that had happened in a Vity game no one would have objected and shouting at the referee that he had got it wrong.
     
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  13. Dills double deckers

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    Just emptied my bucket. Thank god AJ is still world champion or the weekend would be a complete right off.
     
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  14. balkan tiger

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    From the angle the ball was kicked it was more likely to end up in the centre circle than the centre of the penalty area.

    May be a slight exaggeration there but the ball would have gone outside the penalty area if the defender had not been in the way.
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  15. Dills double deckers

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    Yep its like saying an bicycle kick is an unnatural foot position.
     
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  16. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    It’s what the pundits use as another buzz phrase for the armchair enthusiasts & Vloggers.

    If your arm isn’t broken it’s in a natural position.

    Considerations for handball are, as Ernie said, the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand), the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball) & that the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence.

    I don’t think, based on the rules, that it was a penalty.

    I agree at a City game I would have been shouting loudest for a pen.
     
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    Anthony Gardner was more recent, anyone mentioned him?
     
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  18. Trumpton Tiger.

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    I thought Ryan Mason was ?
     
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  19. southerntiger

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    How someone like Hoddle can say it was not a penalty is ridiculous.
    The facts are the referee gave it, Var checked it and BTs referee agreed.
    But then who did Hoddle play for?
    I normally like Hoddle but he made himself look a bit of a twat last night.
     
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  20. Newland Tiger

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    A pundit biased in favour of a team he used to pay for ? That's terrible
     
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