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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 30th May)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, May 30, 2019.

  1. Doc

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    LL this is Ortas son and mijica is on holiday in Las Palmas with his girlfriend. He posted photos yesterday of them on the beach and he looks nothing like the guy in this photo.
     
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  2. wakeybreakyheart

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><cracker>
     
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  3. LeedsLover

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    Ok Doc, took it off all leeds aren't we website.
     
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  4. ellandback

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    These are the new rules which the FA are putting into place ready for next season

    Accidental handball

    From next season, any goal scored with the arm - accidental or deliberate - will not count. Similarly if an advantage is gained in the build-up to any attack by the use of an arm, a free-kick will be given.

    Crucially, this does not apply to defenders inside their own box, meaning incidents will still be left to the interpretation of the match officials over accidental or deliberate use.

    Remember Kemar Roofe's controversial goal against Nottingham Forest last November? That would have be chalked off regardless of whether it was an accidental or deliberate handball if spotted by the referee.



    Penalties

    Goalkeepers, as things stand, are supposed to remain on their line during a penalty kick.

    This rule, though, has been altered so that now they must have one boot on the line when the ball is struck. Whether this will be enforced correctly remains to be seen.

    Keepers will not be allowed to touch the frame of the goal (i.e making the crossbar shake) and are also forbidden from 'feigning movement one way' in an attempt to bluff the taker.



    Goal-kicks

    This one may help Bielsa-ball...

    From next season, players will be allowed to receive goal-kicks from inside the penalty area. The old rule stated that the ball couldn't be touched by a team-mate until the ball had left the box but this one makes a lot of sense.

    Opposition players, though, still won't be permitted to enter the penalty area until the ball is 'live' (touched by a second player).



    Substitutions

    Perhaps the most intriguing new rule.

    In a bid to stop time-wasting, players will now be permitted to leave the pitch at the nearest point when being substituted. This is instead of making the long walk across the field of play talking up vital seconds, normally in the closing stages of a game.



    Drop balls

    Are a thing of the past...

    Instead of a drop-ball situation going forward, referees will now give the ball back to the team who last had possession before play was halted. Whether they will return the ball to the opposition if the situation dictates is entirely up to them, as the referees cannot enforce this.



    Defensive wall

    Another interesting one.

    If there are more than three defensive players in a wall at any free-kick - so, more often than not, any time a shot at goal will be struck - no opposition players will be permitted to join in.

    The attacking side must remain at least one yard away from the wall, meaning an end to any pushing and shoving when the free-kick is taken between the two teams.



    Coin toss

    Instead of just picking ends, the winning captain of the coin toss will now also be permitted to choose whether to kick-off or not.

    Coaches booked (EFL already use this)

    As we have seen over the course of the Championship campaign, head coaches and their staff can now be cautioned with yellow and red cards if their behaviour deems it.

    The EFL put this rule into play at the start of the 2018-19 campaign, but this will now be used across the game.
     
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  5. 2 pennth

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    Substitutions
    Players will now be permitted to leave leave the pitch at the nearest point when being substituted.
    This sounds to me that the player has a choice, surely this should be "Must leave the pitch at the nearest point".
    Otherwise this rule doesn't mean anything.
     
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  6. Whitejock

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    Not Football related, but a bit of musical light relief. If you concentrate hard, you may even see Pete Townsend crack a smile. Actually, that may have just been wishful thinking. :)

     
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  7. Eric Le Merde

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    Sign him up Victor

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  8. stonkin

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    Hmmm, could lead to some very boring games...

    Goalkeeper takes goal kick that doesn't leave the area. Opposition can't get the ball so goalkeeper's side leave the ball sat in the area and all go off for a cup of tea. Great tactic if you're winning the game or don't want to lose.<doh>
     
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  9. Eric Le Merde

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    The rule isn't quite as Ell quoted otherwise you are right it is an ideal time wasting tactic

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    Thanks for the clarification. You just can't trust these bloody estate agents.
     
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  11. Eric Le Merde

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    Link to new rules

    http://eofl.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-20-Law-Changes.pdf

    The player coming off at the nearest point makes sense as players take a really long time to get off the pitch, when they are winning but I just wonder about a player in full kit walking around the pitch and the possible confusion to attackers, defenders and match officials.
     
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    Thanks for that, Ell obviously interprets things in estate get speak.
     
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    Could lead to us improving our possession stats even further next season to 100%. If Kiko still between the sticks we’d likely still lose <whistle>
     
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  14. Doc

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    Hearing a deal has almost been agreed for Berardi to join Cellino at Brescia?
     
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  15. LeedsLover

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    They won't be able to do that Stonkin,

    Time wasting rule comes into effect, too risky for our defender to time waste as the ref can give an indirect free kick inside our penalty area if he so wishes.

    Once the keeper takes the goal kick to our defender inside the area, the ball is deemed to be in play once our defender touches it, and playable by both teams. This means once the kick is taken (ball moving) and our defender touches it, the opposing team can step inside the penalty area.

    One alternative is for a defender to take the goal kick straight to our keeper.
     
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    How does that help matters? Are you saying the keeper could then pick the ball up?

    I'd have thought it would be deemed a deliberate pack pass. The keeper couldn't use his hands and would have to play it like any other outfield player.
     
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    As I've read it, and understand it, and there are varying explanations out there, and to be honest I can't find no details on whether the keeper can pick the ball up or not.

    What it will do is free up another player / option for the keeper to pass too once he has received the ball. From what I've read, and again there's varying explanations, an opposing player won't be able to enter the penalty area untill a defender, or our keeper has touched the ball.

    There's a lot of different interpretations of most of the rules changes out there. The goal kick rule is written in bare minimum in most articles.
     
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    I think you'll find that the ball is deemed to be "in play" as soon as the goal kick is taken.

    It doesn't have to leave the area. An opposition player can enter the area as soon as the "ball is in play", viz as soon as the kick is taken by the keeper or anyone else.
     
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  19. Eric Le Merde

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    At least somebody can read the rule changes on the official site
     
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    Goal-kicks

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    This one may help Bielsa-ball...

    From next season, players will be allowed to receive goal-kicks from inside the penalty area. The old rule stated that the ball couldn't be touched by a team-mate until the ball had left the box but this one makes a lot of sense.

    Opposition players, though, still won't be permitted to enter the penalty area until the ball is 'live' (touched by a second player).

    Like Elland, I got this from the YEP.

    Like I mentioned, there's varying interpretations, and degradations of the new rules. The only positive way for everyone to see these new rules in action is watching our first friendly game after 1st of June.

    I'm willing to bet there'll be confusion to begin with, with both players and officials.
     
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