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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Tories totally wiped out in London. Liberal Democrats win London.

    Islington also voted Lib Dem... which is a bit embarrassing.
     
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  2. Schad

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    The big winners: being either very much for or very much against Brexit.

    The big losers: being wishy-washy on Brexit.
     
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  3. The Ides of March

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    Meaning Labour needs to get back on the Remain horse.
     
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  4. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    I mean... this should have been fairly obvious much sooner than now. The problem they'll have now is that when they declare a stance (if they ever do) all of their opposition will pillory them for playing politics and waiting to see which horse to back.
     
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  5. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    There's one way they can pivot without it looking too bad: if they dump Corbyn, and he's replaced by someone who has some anti-Brexit cred.
     
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    They have shown a lack of interest in running the country as well, so at least they are consistent.
     
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  7. The Ides of March

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    Tories also need to get back on the Remain Horse as not many have supported their Brexit policy.
     
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    Too true!!!
     
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  9. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    Tom Watson for starters!!
     
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  10. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    Yep, yep, yep. This.

    They'd probably also win a GE (or have an improved chance) if they did this too, should one emerge on us.
     
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  11. Schad

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    Likely. An election would be an utter clusterfuck at the moment; polling has Labour receiving the largest share, but it's all but assured to end in a hung Parliament. Either the Conservatives or Labour having to rely on the Lib Dems for votes while pushing through Brexit would be messy, to say the least.
     
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    Rupert Lowe has been elected as an MEP for the Brexit Party in the West Midlands region.
     
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  13. Schad

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    Also, the irony of the surge of nationalists is that it could push EUP governance further left. Current projections suggest that a left/centrist coalition (S&D, ALDE, Greens and Nordic Left, plus assorted others on the left) is awfully close to a majority.
     
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    Not long finished counting votes today.

    Some jerk posted broken glass in one of the ballot boxes.

    Scary that people like this have a vote.
     
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    Depressing that Brexit got 4 Mep's to Lib Dems 2 there given the share of the vote in the south west. I have no idea how the seats are assigned but it could have only been a 0.2% swing from Brexit to lib Dems for both to have 3 seats ( for Lib Dems to be closer to 30% than Brexit was to 40%)
     
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  16. VocalMinority

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    So story of the night, Brexit supporters claim victory as they have the largest party, Remainers claim victory because their parties have the highest vote share. Ruling parties crying in a corner.

    Right, I'm off to bed.
     
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    Yep, that's about it. And turnout was, expectedly, down on the GE anyway. So there's even additional people unaccounted for.
     
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    Man of The People
     
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    A 1/3 of a 1/3 (6m of 18m who voted) went for Brexit.
    Turnout is of course low(despite 20 year high for eu elections).

    I don’t think it’s too much of a leap to suggest that the 6m want a no deal Brexit.

    There remains(pardon the pun) a hardcore support for Brexit, despite the carry on from the last 2 1/2 years and many forecasts of economic hardship to come.
    The remain argument needs to be refined if it’s to breakthrough and gain enough support for a change in course.
     
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  20. ChilcoSaint

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    If Labour would only stop trying to please both sides and firmly state they are a Remain party, as Emily Thornberry was saying last night, they might just get back to a winning position whenever the General Election happens. Brexit might have a hardcore support, but these elections show the majority who voted don’t want it, which Labour have to take as a signal to fully support a second referendum.
     
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