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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Spare me the stories about how people feel sorry for her, how she had the impossible job and she tried her best.

    Have people been asleep during her Premiership and time in the Home Office?

    As both Home Secretary and Prime Minister she was callous, heartless and more recently, proven beyond doubt to be utterly inept.

    She plunged many of the most vulnerable people in our society into untold misery time and time again.

    Theresa May applied for this job and she made a hash up of it.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.
     
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  2. Schrodinger's Cat

    Schrodinger's Cat Well-Known Member

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    ^ this, exactly this
     
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  3. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    The money went to the Treasury

    1.5million social homes sold under Thatcher and not replaced
    Many of these have gone on to landlords

    Became such a vote winner that Labour removed their vehement opposition to it to try and get elected
    That's democracy!
     
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  4. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    <applause><applause><applause><applause><applause>
     
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  5. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Actually the idea of allowing people to buy their council homes was first mooted by Labour. It was discussed at conference, and narrowly rejected during Callaghan’s period in government. Obviously had Labour implemented the policy, receipts would have been used to build replacement council homes.
     
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  6. fatletiss

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    When in the 70s was the winter of discontent?
     
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    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    1978
    Tbh, the 1970's was proof that UK politicians seemed to be clueless as to how to run a country. In the early 1970's we had the 3-day week nonsense, with power cuts everywhere, rationed fuels, foods relatively scarce in the shops. Our time in the EU has been relatively benign since then.
     
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  9. benditlikeabanana

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    I think that Italian restaurants are suffering from the vast range of cook in sauces that are available, OK restaurants are my business and I may be a bit biased, but I see pasta as quick dish that when your in a rush you can throw together quickly with ingredients that you have in the cupboard and fridge without too much fuss and the kids will eat it, even frozen pizzas can be on par with an average restaurant pizza. Also his venues were huge, I was always told a full 30 cover restaurant is better than a half full 60 cover restaurant
     
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  10. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Certainly not 1976.

    It was 78/79 actually, but in truth it was just a Sun headline taken from Shakespeare (The Sun always had good headline writers).
     
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  11. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    A corruption of Shakespeare, as is appropriate for that despicable rag.

    The opening lines of Richard III are of course:

    Now is the winter of our discontent
    Made glorious summer by this sun of York;
    And all the clouds that lour'd upon our house
    In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.
    Now are our brows bound with victorious wreaths;
    Our bruised arms hung up for monuments;
    Our stern alarums changed to merry meetings,
    Our dreadful marches to delightful measures.
     
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  12. StJabbo

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    Milk, Shakespeare Tudor propagandist.
     
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  13. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Didn't realise that, however, as you say, its what you do with the money that matters as well
    The key is you need a policy that provides suitable homes for all and the fact that more people own homes isn't an issue if you have enough homes for those who don't

    There is I believe an idealogical issue here as well as Thatcher wanted to create more Tory voters by making people feel more 'middle-class' so Labour would have had to square property ownership with a continued belief in a benevolent 'society' rather than the selfish one she was instrumental in creating
     
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  14. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    and a classic riposte of the right-wing bad old 70s propaganda
    Even the worst definition would be that Unions representing millions of workers abusing what power they had as opposed to the current decade of relatively few billionairres and oligarchs abusing their immense power
     
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  15. ImpSaint

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    No need. The same graph of "negative things" is actually almost a mirror image of the positive things. So it is like now, the biggest positives for some are the biggest negatives for others.
     
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  16. ImpSaint

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    It is as simple as winning a war. Blair/Bush/those that followed did not win the war in Iraq/Afghanistan. It still continues to an extent. A bit like Vietnam.
     
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  17. ImpSaint

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    IF Corbyn can not lose too many he is already in. The Tories have been damaged too much and the BP could take 40-50 seats at this point without even having a manifesto.
     
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  18. ImpSaint

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    I'm not so sure that "Italian food" has much to do with it. Lots of Italian restaurants are doing well. There are however a lot of bad (and high profile) bad reviews of Jamie Olivers restaurants.

    If we went the "cook in sauce" root then Indians would be struggling, Chineses would be struggling. Virtually all restaurants would be struggling.

    The reality is that for an expensive restaurant people were not prepared to pay for the product.
     
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  19. tomw24

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    Boris is going to be the next PM isn't he? <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
     
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    Um, yes the did. Emphatically. I think you are confusing the war in Iraq with the war on terror.
     
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