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Success measured by trophys

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

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    Here is a list of the most successful teams of the past 10 years (so far)

    2018-19 back to 2009/2010

    Rankings:
    1. Chelsea: 3 league titles, 3 FA cups, 2 league cups, 1 CL , 1 Europa = 5 Major, 5 minor
    2. City: 4 league titles, 2 fa cups, 4 League cups = 4 major, 6 minor
    3. Utd: 2 League titles, 1 Fa cup, 1 league cup, 1 Europa = 3 Major, 2 minor
    4. Leicester: 1 league title = 1 Major
    5. Arsenal: 3 Fa cups = 3 minor
    6. Wigan: 1 FA cup = 1 Minor
    7. Swansea: 1 League cup = 1 minor
    8. Liverpool: 1 League cup = 1 minor
    9. Birmingham: 1 League cup = 1 minor.

    * Teams ranked by Qty of major titles then the qty of minor titles. Noting that no gala event bit of tin counts.
    Have ranked Europa as major as per other competitions that gain entry into CL.

    Year - Champions - fa winners, League cup winners, European trophy
    2009/10 Chelsea, chelsea, Utd
    2010/11 Utd, city, Birmingham
    2011/12 City, chelsea, Liverpool, cheslea CL
    2012/13 Utd, wigan, swansea, Chelsea Europa
    2013/14 City, arsenal, city
    2014/15 Cheslea, arsenal, chelsea
    2015/16 Leicester, utd, city
    2016/17 chelsea, arsenal, utd, Utd europa
    2017/18 city, chelsea, city
    2018/19 City, city, city


    So as of today Chelsea are still the most successful side of last 10 years in england.

    2 major trophies left to win this year. Can cheslea extend their lead or will arsenal jump to 4th?

    Can Liverpool get to 5th or will spurs make it 10 sides winning things over 10 years? Only time will tell.

    Most importantly when will we see another wigan or swansea in the "euphoria" of the watford defeat (who played right into city's hands) people forget that wigan beat city in an FA cup final.
     
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  2. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    you have a hard on for chelsea, you kept going on about them on another thread and now you post this <laugh>

    chelsea and city success has all been brought, fake!!
     
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  3. astro

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    Chelsea and Man Utd's Europa were minor
     
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  4. saintKlopp

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    I only really care about us.
     
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    It’s interesting if you look at last 5 years as that decimates the underdog
    I think literally Leicester stand alone
    Whereas the previous 5 - you can do six and it be the same - offer a different story
    Money is power
    But that is nothing new but we are heading the same way as most leagues now.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

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    true but I kept it as major anyway cos to everyone else on the pmanet bar england it is major.

    plus how can you have a minor cup y oy qualify for by playing in minor cups.
     
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    Bumps Well-Known Member

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    Didn’t we give a space to league cup a few years back ? Lol
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

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    and the fa cup which is just as minor, some would argue even more minor.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

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    you cannot deny the facts.

    they are all there in black and white... available on Google.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

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    and you.look back 5 years further back the only **** team who wins anything is spurs.

    Wigan and Swansea and Birmingham all show recently and unusually small teams can win minor trophies if they try hard.

    Leicester still a total miracle.
     
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  11. bulletinthehead

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    Just like Liverpools then
     
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  12. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    <laugh>
     
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    Bumps Well-Known Member

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    Where the hell did they come from lol
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

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    city fan...

    don't expect them to care how they bought the trophies.
     
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    If it was ok for you before FFP then it's ok now.
     
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    That's not how rules work

    #readtherules
     
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  17. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Yes, but it's a fairly important trophy when anyone else wins it; it's only a small cup when marred by them! <laugh>

    Winning a European cup, even a second string one is prestigious- it gets noticed outside your own country.

    Personally I'd rank the trophies available to English clubs in prestige in this order:

    1) Champions League.
    2) Premier League / Europa tied
    4) FA Cup
    5) League Cup
    6) World Club Cup
    7) European Super Cup
    8) Charity Shield

    That said, I'd have rather won the PL this year than win the CL this year, simply because it has been so bloody long.
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

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    success is not measured by preason friendlies and gala affairs.

    I've never seen anyone refer to andy murray for example as 3 time grand slam champion, double olympic gold winner and 2 time bbc sports personality

    I've never heard anyone defend messi as GOAT by saying sure he's never won the a tournament with argentina but he got to 2 finals and is a 5 times world player of the year.
     
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  19. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    I agree, which is why I listed them last
     
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  20. Zanjinho

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    1) PL
    2) CL
    3) EL
    4) FA Cup
    5) League Cup

    **** everything else
     
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