Black Managers
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Spurs fans were all against hiring Sol Campbell when it was mentioned on here a few weeks ago, racist ****s
but no one is suggesting that just that they get the opportunity to be interviewed .
Yes but will that spot be in addition or is there the risk that someone more qualified loses out at the chance at an interview because of that rule.
Sol Campbell's main disadvantage when it comes to getting a manager's job is that he's a colossal ****.
Chris Hughton walks into a job at Newcastle United.
Teddy Sheringham needs to start off at Stevenage.
To use two managers to suggest something is a bit vague and silly imo.
If people are good enough and in the right place at the right time they'll get a job regardless of skin colour.
Define "qualified" in relation to managers
There is that, there are standard badges that everyone has to get so it should be a level playing field until you get to job history.
Pretty much anyone should get a job over those 3.
Load of bollocks.
From reading the quotes, it barely sounded like he had put himself out there.
****ing apply the jobs and push yourself. Seems like Emile is as lazy in real life as he was on the pitch at times.
It’s like students who come out of uni and expect a job within a week.
From reading the quotes, it barely sounded like he had put himself out there.
****ing apply the jobs and push yourself. Seems like Emile is as lazy in real life as he was on the pitch at times.
It’s like students who come out of uni and expect a job within a week.
Not only that, but getting having his wife whinge to the press about it probably isn't going to do him any favours either.
The numbers don’t back up that dismissal of the issue, there’s a massive disparity that can’t just be merely down to talent.
It’ll hopefully change as the age profile and type of Chairmen who do the hiring alters, but to say there’s never been an issue in this area is naive.
Maybe there are some old school fuddy duddy ****head chairmen left, but like I said, most of these high falooting football owner types just care about cash money mate.
A statistical anomaly doesn't automatically mean that some kind of discrimination is occurring, though Social Justice warriors are quick to jump to this conclusion.
For instance, girls have been kicking boy's arses in exam results at GCSE level for the past 20 years, there is a big disparity between the genders.....Does that mean that school institutions are sexist towards boys?
As far as I can tell more than a quarter of top level footballers are black and much less than a tenth of managers are black. That really can't have happened by chance so the only explanation is some form of racism.
Find it such a stupid argument.
Older managers are predominantly white because 20+ years ago when they were playing in England, football was primarily played by white males - it probably still is I think, although there's now a much larger presence of black/ ethnic players, in which ironically the most expensive in England is black (Pogba), as is the second (Lukaku) and as is the third (van Dijk).
The newer set of managers are now having to cut their teeth in lower leagues or in coaching set ups to prove themselves, as it should be. Parker was our U18s coach for a year, left to join Fulham's first team staff and is now manager. Lampard went to Derby. Gerrard to the tinpot SPL. Eddie Howe took Bournemouth from League two to the Prem, Sean Dyche started as a coach at Watford before getting their manager's job and then to Burnley. The notion that there aren't opportunities for black players turned coaches/ managers is ridiculous, it just seems to me those who've had moans in the past don't seem to want to put the work in. Campbell bitched for years about lack of top jobs before finally accepting the Macclesfield one whilst Heskey's missus saying he should've been in contention for the England job is just laughable. Zero managerial experience yet he should get the most prestigious job in the country? Yeah makes a lot of sense and it's obviously racist that he was overlooked for it...
Older managers are predominantly white because 20+ years ago when they were playing in England, football was primarily played by white males - it probably still is I think, although there's now a much larger presence of black/ ethnic players, in which ironically the most expensive in England is black (Pogba), as is the second (Lukaku) and as is the third (van Dijk).
The newer set of managers are now having to cut their teeth in lower leagues or in coaching set ups to prove themselves, as it should be. Parker was our U18s coach for a year, left to join Fulham's first team staff and is now manager. Lampard went to Derby. Gerrard to the tinpot SPL. Eddie Howe took Bournemouth from League two to the Prem, Sean Dyche started as a coach at Watford before getting their manager's job and then to Burnley. The notion that there aren't opportunities for black players turned coaches/ managers is ridiculous, it just seems to me those who've had moans in the past don't seem to want to put the work in. Campbell bitched for years about lack of top jobs before finally accepting the Macclesfield one whilst Heskey's missus saying he should've been in contention for the England job is just laughable. Zero managerial experience yet he should get the most prestigious job in the country? Yeah makes a lot of sense and it's obviously racist that he was overlooked for it...
Your analogy doesn’t work, as the disparity is between qualified coaches with the same qualifications applying for the same jobs.
It happens in society in general and it patently also happens (or has historically happened) in football.
How many black players have gone on to do their coaching badges?
What percentage of the UK is black?
It’s like everyone’s trump card. I didn’t get that job because I’m [insert some form of excuse]