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Third and in the Europa League final

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  1. Bodinki

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    Probably the best we could have hoped for at the beginning of the season.
    We were never going to do better than Liverpool and City.
    A decent enough season....and if we win the EL it would have been a very good season
     
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    Good statistically and I have not commented for ages waiting to see how things worked out. Third and Europa final good effort but having renewed my season ticket I'm dreading watching another season of the style we are playing and I believe we have achieved this finish despite sarri and not because of him . If the transfer ban sticks lets hope we see some of our better youngsters given a chance. COYB
     
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    Daddies of London
     
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    Well next season we will likely be without Hazard, but Pulisic is coming in.
    The ban should see people like CHO and RLC get more game time, plus there are players we can bring in from loan like Batshit, Abraham, Zouma and the like, they may feature.
    Abraham has done very well in the Championship, if he can make the step up to the PL then he may be a decent back up striker.
     
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    Our league position has certainly glossed over how bad things have been this year. We all knew that we would be rebuilding and in a transition period but I don’t think we really knew just how much work there was to do.
    Next season will see us use more youth and hopefully witha clear out as well as a full pre season we will be ready to at least have a better go of it that this year.
     
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    Has it really been that bad this year? It might be that our rivals just have had way better years.

    I agree, some of this possession football is frustrating as **** rather than chucking the ball in the mixer but surely it was far more enjoyable than contes defensive football. We had less of the ball and we only attacked with 4 or 5 players
     
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  7. Chelsea Pensioner

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    Very good end result but I can't help feeling this was more despite Sarri than because of him, or conversely, had he played smarter we would be even closer to setting out with our best 11 in their best positions?
    Can't complain about where we finished though, so he deserves some credit. There are even signs that Jorghino is finally starting to adapt to the requirements his position demands.
    What will be interesting is to see just who we let go. Will people like Zappacosta, Higuain, Willian and Pedro be kept? Will Giroud stay ? Will CHO stay? Will RLC stay? Will some of the kids mentioned in previous posts actually come back or will Sarri stick with the Barkleys, Kovacic's etc that he already has?
    Is the Club brave enough to put the broom through and actually commit to the big overhaul we need ,or try and do it in dribs and drabs?
    Sarri with a "new look " squad would be something to look forward to, with the same old dross, maybe a season to dread.
     
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    Camp town ladies sing this song...

    “Who came 4th in a 3 horse race?

    .....Tottenham, Tottenham”. :1980_boogie_down:
     
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    I was finding Sarri’s chosen one - Jorginho - irritating with his sideways and backwards passing. However, against Frankfurt and Watford he was actually getting stuck in and doing some tackling for once. I’m looking forward to next season and I reckon Sarri is on a learning curve and he is getting better as a manager here.
     
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    He couldn't get worse, so I agree he should get better !!!!!
    Seriously, Jorghino did look better and Sarri needs to chill out, open his mind and try more things. He has more to gain than nothing to lose.
     
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    Oh dear, a pointless game on a dodgy pitch, so Sarri starts our 1st team players, and ensures no youngster gets a starting place, and now RLC is injured and in doubt for EL Final.
    Great work by the genius' that are the Chelsea Management staff.
     
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    I'm utterly stunned by this. A pointless game when the season still not over. Do this charity type match at the end of the season or only play fringe/youth players.

    To think we could now be without one of our in form players for this beggars belief and shows what poor planning goes on at CFC
     
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    I don't blame Sarri BTW. This was Roman's 'baby' and he would have been under pressure to play first teamers. Joke.
     
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    Unbelievable really. What a stupid charity match to get involved in.

    Pretty sure roman roman probably wanted to watch the players having been present at the match.

    Also heard we are not renewing higuians loan. I've thought hes looked decent so i am surprised by this. I think hes better than giroud and tammy even if he isnt the future. It worries me that we are only left with them two and batters especially since we have a transfer ban
     
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    To be honest, I think Higuain has been surprisingly poor. His goal return is bad and generally only scores against lesser sides. At the reported 300k a week and given he is clearly in decline, think it wouldn't be sensible business wise to renew the deal unless terms were significantly improved.

    I think Giroud is currently a much better option and if we have Tammy and Bats as back up then so be it. Tammy's goal record this year (albeit at Vila) has been very good.

    A goal scorer will have to be a top priority next summer assuming the ban sticks this summer.
     
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    Right on the money. If we are paying Higuain anything like 300 Gs a week we are totally loopy. He is a washed up, past it player, and no matter how many glimpses of his once great talent he shows, he can't do the business. Bad call from Sarri, who says he wants to keep him.
    Giroud is also past it and no way a first choice striker.Better than Higuain for sure, but Tammy and Bats with game time should be better.
    Come to think of it, Sarri really is hopeless, hope RA flicks him for the sake of the future before another half a dozen exceptional kids **** off.
    We are at a point that requires vision, talent, and courage. Sarri has none of the above.
    Time to come into the real world and do some hard work.
     
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    I don't think Giroud is past it, just don't think he's ever been at the required level as a first choice striker for a team with aspirations for C.L or P.L titles. He's a very good player at what he does but when most teams only play 1 up top nowadays, he doesn't score enough.
     
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    I think Higuain could be a decent stopgap for us, assuming the team works out how to play Sarriball.
    He has the eye for goal and has scored some lovely goals. He’s definitely at the end of his career but a quality striker given the right service will still bang ‘em in.
    Everybody knows what needs to be done this coming transfer ban. It’s whether or not the club can see it too.
    Personally, I think Roman’s time is up. He needs to sell as he can’t run the show when not even in the country.
     
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  19. Bodinki

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    I too am hoping that RA sells the club to Ratcliffe.
    RA clearly cares less about the club than he used to, and rightly so, seeing as our government wont even let him enter the country and with FFP rules and charges from UEFA hitting us every 20 minutes, he probably is feeling a little persecuted and exasperated these days, i think it would be best for him and Chelsea if he sold the club and parted ways.

    As for Sarri, I really dont see why anyone has any hate for him, its his first season in the PL, so he didnt hit the ground running like Mourinho, Ancelotti or Conte did, but he has shown me enough to see that he could do things with this club if given time and some money. This ****ing transfer ban wont help, but at least it has the hidden bonus of forcing us to utilise more of our youth players, which is something we have all been crying out for for a very long time, and is an issue at this club that LOOOONG pre-dates Sarri joining the club, so it clearly isnt down to him.

    Higuain, yes he is past his prime, but is he going to be better than Giroud and Tammy, my gut says yes. Like Sarri, this was his first season in the PL, and I think he may be able to do a job if we keep him. And I only say this because of the transfer ban, were we able to bring in a new striker I certainly would not be advocating keeping Higuain at the club, but if we start the season with Giroud as our main striker, I cannot see good things happening, ask Arsenal, they did it for years and won **** all, and that was when Giroud was in his prime!

    I have been watching Tammy at Villa this season, and the boy does not have what it takes to make it in a top 4 PL club, nor the potential to do so either imo. I fear clubs like West Brom, Norwich, Villa, Leeds are his level to be honest.

    Batshit is a different matter, I really think he can cut the mustard if given a chance, though I would not be prepared to enter into a season with a past it Giroud and a gamble on Batshit as our strike options, so I really think keeping Higuain is less risky......if we dont, then I hope Michy is up for it, because Giroud as our starting striker will see us back down in 5th and 6th territory next season.
     
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    Totally agree on higuain.

    Hes shown some class finishing, hes pretty tough and i love his moment (but none of our creative players really pass that much to him cause they all love a dribble). Its little wonder theres a rotating door of players when we barely give players a chance to settle in.

    Obviously i i would be advocating him as hes no where near the future and he had a chronic lack of pace but i really dont see the answer being giroud as hes much the same, with less finishing and lesser movement. At 15m for the year thats cheap if it helps us get into the cl cause lets face it, barring a miracle and with a transfer ban we arent going to be challenging for the league.

    As for sarri, he's actually used more of our youth than most, and whilst hes a stubborn guy and needs to be more direct sometimes, im surprised by how much hate he has. Personally i dont like the way its our third midfielder who leads the press but i am willing to give him a chance.
     
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