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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    On this basis, they're all going to be voting Lib Dem. I'll believe it when I see it
     
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  2. sb_73

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    So you should be censured for drawing attention to the ethnicity of a panellist on QT, for no discernible reason?

    We used to have lots of rules which didn’t apply to everyone. “No dogs, no blacks, no Irish’. I don’t remember WASPs getting too upset about those. But now we get all snowflakey about it when we feel our demographic is being criticised. You have the right to take offence. You do not have the right never to be offended.
    Yeah, I’d like to see the death of the Tory party and the old style gammons and blue rinses that vote for it, but idiocy is deep set, it’ll probably see me out. Although May, Rees Mogg, Johnson et al are doing their best to destroy it in double quick time. Lots of leave voters from The Peak District in vox pops on the news said they will never vote again. All the ancient Tory voting demographic.
     
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  3. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    which part of the eu do the young want to be unemployed in
    Youth unemployment rate in EU countries January 2019
    Youth unemployment rate in EU member states as of January 2019 (seasonally adjusted)
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    The statistic shows the seasonally adjusted youth unemployment rate in EU member states as of January 2019. The source defines youth unemployment as unemployment of those younger than 25 years. In January 2019, the seasonally adjusted youth unemployment rate in Spain was at 32.6 percent.
    Youth unemployment rate in EU member states

    Unemployment is a crucial economic factor for a country; youth unemployment is often examined separately because it tends to be higher than unemployment in older age groups. It comprises the unemployment figures of a country’s labor force aged 15 to 24 years old (i.e. the earliest point at which mandatory school education ends). Typically, teenagers and those in their twenties who are fresh out of education do not find jobs right away, especially if the country’s economy is experiencing difficulties, as can be seen above. Additionally, it also tends to be higher in emerging markets than in industrialized nations. Worldwide, youth unemployment figures have not changed significantly over the last decade, nor are they expected to improve in the next few years.

    Youth unemployment is most prevalent in the Middle East and North Africa, even though these regions report high unemployment figures regardless (Zimbabwe and Turkmenistan are among the countries with the highest unemployment rates in the world, for example), and are also highly populated areas with a rather weak infrastructure, compared to industrialized regions.

    In the European Union and the euro area, unemployment in general has been on the rise since 2008, which is due to the economic crisis which caused bankruptcy and financial trouble for many employers, and thus led to considerable job loss, less job offerings, and consequently, to a rise of the unemployment rate. Older workers are struggling to find new jobs despite their experience, and young graduates are struggling to find new jobs, because they have none. All in all, the number of unemployed persons worldwide is projected to rise, this is not down to the economic crisis alone, but also the industrial automation of processes previously performed by workers, as well as rising population figures.
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    Youth unemployment rate in EU member states as of January 2019 (seasonally adjusted)
    Youth unemployment rate
    Greece ** 39.1%
    Italy 33%
    Spain 32.6%
    Croatia* 23%
    Cyprus* 20.4%
    France 20.1%
    Portugal 17.8%
    Sweden 17.2%
    Finland 16.9%
    Euro area 16.5%
    Romania*** 16.1%
    Belgium* 15.4%
    EU 14.9%
    Slowakia 14%
    Latvia 13.5%
    Ireland 12.4%
    Malta 11.8%
    Luxembourg 11.8%
    Bulgaria 11.8%
    Poland 11.6%
    Lithuania 11.6%
    United Kingdom** 11.5%
    Hungary* 11.4%
    Slovenia* 9.7%
    Denmark 9.4%
    Estonia* 9.1%
    Austria 8.4%
    Netherlands 6.5%
    Czech Republic 6.1%
    Germany 6%
     
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  4. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    The context of Snow's comment was a few wayward men chanting and chucking stuff towards Downing St. Imagine if this had been said about black people during the riots a few years back.
     
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    Twat.
     
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  6. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    OXO have released a new brexit cube
    It's called the laughing stock
     
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  7. sb_73

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    Oh **** the UK has infected the already dysfunctional EU and now we get a ****ing pointless 6 month extension of purgatory. I really wish they had said you have until 22 May then you can **** off, we’ve got other stuff to do. But no, a ‘flexible’ extension meaning if somehow May gets support for the Withdrawal Agreement we can leave at any time. But it is nailed on certain that the government and Parliament will take every second of this six months and still fail.

    This from John Cooper Clarke seems oddly appropriate
    LIMBO (BABY LIMBO)
    Their lives are a mystery
    They make it their career
    In the single files of history
    Fall and disappear
    Swearing they’ll get even
    With all those other creeps
    Philistines and Heathens
    They violently sleep
    Or steal from cigarette machines
    Just for the change
    To get back to where they’ve been
    A doorway in the rain
    Back in the confession box
    Back in the slums
    Desire burns like chicken pox
    Underneath the thumbs
    A refugee from purgatory
    Wears a crown of thorns
    Turns out she’s a gringo
    Of hard circumstance
    Limbo Baby Limbo

    They want to see you dance
    Take the tradesman’s entrance
    Take it out on a tramp
    Every ****ing sentence
    Complains about the damp
    The only girl is a faint cry
    In the garden of cement
    Wait until the paint dries
    It’s a big event
    Look through heaven’s window
    With their opalescent panes
    Limbo Baby Limbo

    Down the Boulevard of shame
    Saint Margaret dies intact
    Hardly seems alert
    Her stone gaze denies the fact
    Her face hurts
    The extra legal image
    The cold cream skin
    The regal gimicks
    Did you in
    Look through heaven’s window
    You see the powder blue veil
    The cover girl of limbo

    The sweetheart of the jail
    Gypsy babies hop-scotch
    Outside the silver gates
    The witch doctor’s wristwatch
    Is stuck at five-to-eight
    A bad break, a slight ache
    Is every ones compaint
    Flesh flakes like angel cake
    From mug-shots of the saints
    Who fell from a window
    Was never seen again
    ‘Til he turns up in limbo

    In a doorway in the rain
    A hero rides to heaven
    The public only rots
    For a fraction of forever
    In a designated spot
    Eternally paralysed
    A morbid orbit shift
    Halfway to paradise
    Stuck in the lifts
    Some smart crackin’ bimbo
    Say’s you can’t be employed
    Sends you off to limbo
    On the stairway to a void
     
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    So we await Halloween
     
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  10. TootingExcess

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    I see Julian Assange has been arrested

     
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  11. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    ****ing good!

    His leaks cost lives and put many more in danger.

    An odious, twat of a man.
     
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  12. sb_73

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    Completely agree. While the concept of wiki leaks is fine, and the idea that the usually unaccountable can be held to account is good, the way that this horrible cult operates is disgusting, they hold no accountability themselves for the stupid and dangerous way they act. Assange is a complete creep as well.
     
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    Another Halloween gift, shame it wasn't the 5th November and they got blown to infinity...

     
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  14. kiwiqpr

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    Tories drop 10 points, below 30% in latest BMG poll
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    Yet another truly dire poll for the Conservative Party, with BMG tracking them down by 10 points in under a month. Pretty bloody grim.
    The poll from early April has the Tories on 29%, down 10, with Labour also down but leading on 31%.
    Meanwhile the anti-Brexit ‘Change UK’ are on 8% and the LibDems are also on 8%.
    UKIP are on 7% meanwhile, with Nigel Farage’s new Brexit Party on 6%. Though with European Elections on the horizon, these numbers could well go up.
    This backs up an equally bad Kantar poll for the Tories that had them down 9 points and trailing Labour as well.
    Theresa May’s pathetic performance as Prime Minister is now clearly boosting Jeremy Corbyn. Are Tory MPs going to take action or allow this to go on?
     
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    dont tell them

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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    pams upset

    Pamela Anderson‏Verified account@pamfoundation 10h10 hours ago
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    I am in shock..
    I couldn’t hear clearly what he said?
    He looks very bad.
    How could you Equador ?
    (Because he exposed you).
    How could you UK. ?
    Of course - you are America’s bitch and you need a diversion from your idiotic Brexit bullshit.
     
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    If exposing wrongdoing endangers those that support the wrongdoing, does that make the exposure itself wrong, or are the wrongdoers wronger than the exposers?
     
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    BREAKING NEWS in 2026: Metropolitan police enter 10 Downing Street to arrest Theresa May after she has spent seven years refusing to leave.
     
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    Roger Scruton: An apology for thinking
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    Roger Scruton
    I recently gave an interview to the New Statesman, on the assumption that, as the magazine’s former wine critic I would be treated with respect, and that the journalist, George Eaton, was sincere in wanting to talk to me about my intellectual life. Not for the first time I am forced to acknowledge what a mistake it is to address young leftists as though they were responsible human beings. Here is my brief response to an unscrupulous collection of out of context remarks, some of them merely words designed to accuse me of thought-crimes, and to persuade the government that I am not fit to be chairman of the commission recently entrusted to me.
    Eaton repeats the libel, uttered under Parliamentary privilege originally, that I believe in some kind of Jewish conspiracy theory. Here is what I said in the speech (discussing the idea of the Nation State, and delivered to the Hungarian Academy) in which the relevant words occurred:
    ‘The Jewish minority (here in Hungary) that survived the Nazi occupation suffered further persecution under the communists, but nevertheless is active in making its presence known. Many of the Budapest intelligentsia are Jewish, and form part of the extensive networks around the Soros Empire. People in these networks include many who are rightly suspicious of nationalism, regard nationalism as the major cause of the tragedy of Central Europe in the 20th century, and do not distinguish nationalism from the kind of national loyalty that I have defended in this talk. Moreover, as the world knows, indigenous anti-Semitism still plays a part in Hungarian society and politics, and presents an obstacle to the emergence of a shared national loyalty among ethnic Hungarians and Jews.’
    In retrospect I could have chosen the words more carefully. But my purpose was to point out that anti-Semitism has become an issue in Hungary, and an obstacle to a shared national identity. As for the Soros Empire, I am the only person I know who has actually tried to persuade Viktor Orbán to accept its presence, and that of the Central European University in particular, in Hungary. I did not succeed, but that is another matter. I should add that I am neither a friend nor an enemy of Orbán, but know him from the days when I helped him and his colleagues to set up a free university under the communists. What Orbán did then was the first step towards the liberation of his country, and George Soros was one of those who helped him too. It is sad for Hungary that the two have fallen out, and that the old spectre of anti-Semitism has been reborn from their clash. Given their two aggressive personalities, however, it is hardly surprising.
    Then there is Islamophobia. It seems that by questioning this word and pointing to its origin in the Muslim Brotherhood’s propaganda campaigns I am somehow showing myself to be guilty of the offence that it describes. I deplore the current use of this word, since it implies that there is some peculiar and irrational state of mind from which all objections to Islam proceed. I myself distinguish Islam, as a faith and a way of life, from the radicals who commit crimes in its name. I have a respect and tenderness towards the first of those, and a hatred of the second. But it is increasingly difficult, with the current abuse of language, to make this point, or to encourage Muslims to make it too.
    I think of ‘homophobia’ as a similar word, designed to close all debate about a matter in which only one view is now deemed permissible. Apparently I once wrote that homosexuality is ‘not normal’, but nobody has told me where, or why that is a particularly offensive thing to say. Red hair too is not normal, nor is decency among left-wing journalists. In Sexual Desire (1986), I argued that homosexuality is different from heterosexuality, but not in itself a perversion. And I tried to explain the negative response that many people have towards homosexual relations in other terms.
    Finally, my comments on China: I was describing the attempt of the Chinese Communist Party to achieve conformity of behaviour in everything that might threaten its comprehensive political control, and I think it is fair to describe this as an attempt to robotise the Chinese people. The Communist Party expects each person to replicate the behavioural code, not questioning its authority and finding safety in imitation. Many people see the threat of this in the attitude of Beijing towards Hong Kong. Far more important, to my mind, is the internment of a million or more Uighur Muslims, in order to clean their minds of the dangerous God idea and re-programme them with the Party idea instead. If we are not allowed to criticise this as the robotising of the victims, then what are we allowed to criticise and how?
    We in Britain are entering a dangerous social condition in which the direct expression of opinions that conflict – or merely seem to conflict – with a narrow set of orthodoxies is instantly punished by a band of self-appointed vigilantes. We are being cowed into abject conformity around a dubious set of official doctrines and told to adopt a world view that we cannot examine for fear of being publicly humiliated by the censors. This world view might lead to a new and liberated social order; or it might lead to the social and spiritual destruction of our country. How shall we know, if we are too afraid to discuss it?
     
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