Off Topic UK politics and brexit ramblings

Tell them you're an ex UKIP councillor -they'll have you on in a flash.

 

Sounds like a tool used by Mistress Mystique.


Don't ask.....

 

I presume you're replying to me? The answers ****ing no

 

EU slaps down Jacob Rees-Mogg for suggesting UK should deliberately cause chaos if Brexit is delayed
Brussels has slapped down Jacob-Rees Mogg after the leading Brexiteer suggested the UK should wilfully cause chaos at the EU institutions if Brexit was delayed.
A spokesperson for the European Commission suggested that the Tory MP was essentially irrelevant and not involved in negotiations.
“This gentleman is not our interlocutor and I would say then that the principle of sincere cooperation does apply, as prime minister May herself makes clear in her letter,” the spokesperson told reporters in Brussels.
“I would also say that this is a hypothetical question because it supposes, or presupposed an extension, which is yet to be seen by our leaders.”
Guy Verhofstadt, the European Parliament’s Brexit coordinator, also piled in. Seizing on Mr Mogg’s comments, he said: “For those in the EU who may be tempted to further extend the Brexit saga, I can only say, be careful what you wish for.”
Mr Rees-Mogg, a leading figure in the eurosceptic ERG group of Tory MPs, had said on Friday morning that “if a long extension leaves us stuck in the EU we should be as difficult as possible”.

 

If the Euro elections go ahead they will be a second referendum by proxy. Corbyn's problem will be that he will have to declare his position clearly. Could be tricky. Made for parties like Farages Brexit and ChangeUK.

 

We are officially in a mess. The reputation of our democracy and of our political is truly in the gutter. Not only nationally but internationally. Abroad anyone who is remotely interested in international affairs cannot resist telling me that how come our politicians are so indisciplined and that every individual politician thinks only about his position first and not their party and their policy. The EU politicians can barely disguise their contempt for our politics. Each pronouncement is heavy with disrespect and spite as if they are treating infants in a nursery.

I have never seen Britain so humiliated.

 

plus may is a munter.

on the plus side she isn't a Mega fan of Kyle.

 

See JRM is threatening the EU with Tommy Robinson if we partake in the May elections. Not that he approves of Yaxley-Lennon's views or methods, perish the thought.

 

Brexit extension veto by EU unlikely, says Leo Varadkar
It is unlikely an EU 27 country will veto a UK request for a delay to Brexit, the Irish prime minister has said.

Leo Varadkar said a country "wouldn't be forgiven" if it vetoed an extension as that decision would cause hardship to Ireland and other EU countries.

The UK is set to leave the EU on 12 April but a deal has not been approved by Westminster.

Prime Minister Theresa May has asked for a further extension until 30 June.

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Any extension to the UK's departure would have to be unanimously approved by EU leaders.

Taoiseach (Irish prime minister) Leo Varadkar told Irish broadcaster RTÉ that, while it was "always a possibility", it was highly unlikely that a veto would be used.

He said any country that vetoed the UK's extension request could "find themselves on the other end of that veto power in the future".
https://www.not606.com/threads/uk-politics-and-brexit-ramblings.369464/page-69

 

The only problem is that it doesn't work. Even when they gave her a shorter extension than she wanted last time, parliament still voted against her deal. In fact it backfired and parliament voted against No Deal at all cost. And following that she seems to have climbed on board with that notion... or is using it again to get the ERG to comply with the added wummery of bringing Labour on board. The only problem with this - and it's a BIG fcking problem - is she actually thinks she's clever and everybody else is stupid, and that this will work... all the while making herself and her party look like a complete mess. She is without doubt, the most incompetent post-war PM this country has ever had.

 

But I want to

 

Threw away a majority with a general election. Voted down in parliament three times, including the biggest defeat in history. Two sets of cross-party talks abandoned because she refuses to make any concessions. And she still thinks her deal has a chance.

#deluded

 

That is pretty much it in a nutshell.

If you read/listen to anyone that's known her, she has spent her whole political career getting to where she is by belligerently ploughing on with her own agenda, unable to listen to, or take on board, anything anyone else advises for or against. If you could pick any characteristic in a human being that would make them wholly unsuitable for being the PM in the single most important event in the country's future, that would probably be it.

Our only saving grace is that she's not a Brexiteer.

 

somethings got to crack shortly.

the leaky roof in parliament may mean they don't even bother meeting tomorrow.

can you credit that?

let the dive fall.down if you have to. 2 days.... that's what she's got.

let them all resign. get the year long delay and have ge on day of local elections.

 

Visit the Twitter account of the leader of the Sensible Party then.

 

are these ****s meeting secretly or are things at an impasse?

They need to be voting tomorrow for may to go Wednesday and get approvals.

 

I think Corbyn nudged her this morning and then May made him breakfast in bed.

 

A Labour MP’s constituency office windows have been smashed in what she suspects may have been an attempt at intimidation over her stance on Brexit.
The damage to the office of Helen Goodman, MP for Bishop Auckland in County Durham, was inflicted on Saturday and comes amid an increasingly febrile atmosphere in Britain over its exit from the European Union (EU).
Ms Goodman, who backed Remain in the 2016 referendum but voted to trigger Article 50 two years ago to respect the result of the referendum, is calling for a so-called soft Brexit and late last month voted to keep the UK in a customs union.

 

Brexit: 'Ball in government’s court' on talks, says Sir Keir Starmer


"The ball is in the government's court" when it comes to a way forward with Brexit, Labour's Sir Keir Starmer says.
Talks between Labour and the government began last week, with Theresa May saying only a cross-party pact will see MPs agree a deal in Parliament.
But the shadow Brexit secretary said Mrs May's team had "not changed its position" on her existing plan.
The PM will meet German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday.
Mrs May's spokesman said she was also making calls to other European leaders from Downing Street on Monday afternoon.
She is due at an emergency summit in Brussels on Wednesday, where EU leaders will expect to hear fresh plans ahead of the UK's scheduled exit date - Friday at 23:00 BST.
On Monday, peers will continue considering a bill brought by senior Labour MP Yvette Cooper, which aims to force the PM to request a Brexit extension rather than leave the EU without a deal.

Despite communications over the weekend, there were no further talks with Labour scheduled for Monday.
However, Sir Keir - who is part of Labour's negotiating team - added: "I have no doubt things will develop today."

BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg said the party was now "expecting [an] updated proposal" from the government, and more formal talks could take place this afternoon.

1. Labour expecting updated proposal from govt, hoping for more concessions on customs - more formal talks possible this afternoon
2. Mini-cabinet at 1pm
3. Tory Brexiteer MPs trying to organise 'indicative' vote of no confidence in PM

Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said Mrs May was leaving "no stone unturned" to try and resolve Brexit, while Culture Secretary Jeremy Wright told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that all sides needed to be "prepared to compromise" to "fulfil the primary objective" of leaving the EU.
But shadow transport secretary Andy McDonald told BBC's Radio 4's Today programme that talks between the parties had "not been entirely productive".
Several Conservatives have also strongly criticised the move, with the former Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson using his column in Monday's Daily Telegraph to warn that Tory MPs would not allow Mrs May to "surrender" to Mr Corbyn.
The EU's chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, is travelling to Dublin later to meet the Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar.
The pair are expected to discuss developments in London, as well as ongoing planning for a possible no-deal scenario.

 

Summary?