Brian,I can remember as a 9 year old running away to see my nan in Carshalton/Wallington.From Tottenham got to Manor House,caught a 33 tram to the Embankment,then another tram to Tooting Broadway,then a red Daimler bus to Wallington. Nan was very shocked to see me.God knows how I paid to get there.She took me shopping at Croydon and I thought,at that age,it looked so nice after Lordship Lane...…..and I survived to become a Spurs fan.But I'm feeling much better these days.
Now, I live in Carshalton. Very nice it is too. It's not as beautiful as Crystal Palace/Upper Norwood but it is safe and full of decent people and I don't worry about kids carrying knives. My cousins grew up in Croydon. As a teenager, we drank in every pub in the borough. We walked to most of them. Only a couple of times in 10 years was there any trouble. Little chance of that now. I encourage my daughters to go to Camden or Oxford Street or Beirut rather than Croydon. It's sad. It wasn't always like that.
It's ****ing mental and drug addled. Not many power boats, though..... please log in to view this image
I lived in Penge for a while a couple of years back so I’m not unfamiliar with the general area. I have no desire to go back!
With very few coppers on the beat now,it's all gone to pot.....and the "do gooders" do no good at all!
Could not see what had happened from where I was in the North Stand. I thought the ref had given a penalty at first. All very slomo!
The ones you’re talking about are not do-gooders, then. And I’d much rather be a do-gooder than a do-badder or a do-nothinger.
And what was the North Stand supposed to be? I’m sorry guys, but some of us don’t actually want to stand for the whole game, but to sit and not have our view obstructed. I’m very happy to get up if the play goes into the corner at our end or if it looks as if a goal is coming (eg when Sissoko doesn’t have the ball!!!) . But there was a whole section to my left where the entire body of supporters stood for 90+ minutes. And the guy directly in front of me rarely sat down. We had a clear view of the far end, but he and his mates still stood up when the ball crossed the halfway line in the second half. So all the oldies round me (inlcluding me) had to keep on struggling to our feet, and sometimes struggling to sit down again. My knees are not good, so all this bending and stretching was a bit of a problem, even though I spent an hour in the gym in the morning! There are a lot of older fans in the North Stand. We sang well, we waved our flags and (by the way) we also responded loudly to the Park Lane with “We’re the Paxton”! I have no objection to those who want/need to stand all match doing so - and the idea of zones for them is something I’d welcome, but it was not in full evidence last night. The one downside to the whole emotional experience. Rant over. Sorry.
That moment will come in future games as well. We've Pritch to come with Huddersfield , then Chris with Brighton , and finally Azza with Everton. (I'm ignoring Fredericks )
At Wembley, the end where the away fans sat, the lower tear of the Spurs fans used to stand up all of the time. Standing is coming. I need a seat with my gout though, that's why my season ticket is near enough the front of the second tear.
I guess nobody had thought than some fans,younger of course,would prefer to stand,while others,older or with physical problems prefer to sit.
AAHHH! Now in the Paxton end many moons ago,they used to let you know all about it...…...standing days of course!
Knowing now that one of the biggest hold ups was the fire safety system DL took a chance with the pyrotechnics
Agreed! That's where I was, lowest level, but further to the right of the goal. But there were a lot of people standing a lot of the time! I had hoped this would not be the case back home. My guess is that those persistently standing in front of me last night were not the actual season ticket holders, but people who bought spare seats..... Or at least, I fervently hope so!!!!!!!!