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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Libby, Jan 16, 2019.

  1. Onionman

    Onionman Well-Known Member

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    Detest it. It will probably stop me going. (I originally typed "may well" but that's not quite right)

    And I'll make a prediction. It'll be used more, and more, and more, and more...

    In rugby it was originally used when things were thought to be close. Now it's used all the time.

    In cricket, it was intended for close decisions. Now I see run-outs that were five or six feet out referred.

    Mark my words, all it'll take is an incident where Liverpool concede in a season-defining match where there was a foul forty seconds before that was missed by the ref. There'll be an outcry and they'll extend the build-up period. All the tedious turds will tell us it's a good thing: "it's important that things like that are corrected, the rules matter". It'll mushroom until it ruins the game. Mark my words.

    Vin
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    <applause>

    Superb post.
     
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  3. saintlyhero

    saintlyhero Well-Known Member

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    Qwerty kind of answered your question for me earlier.
    I’m not against VAR coming to that decision, just think if we have better technology available, that the offside rule should be amended.
    For me, goals shouldn’t be ruled out because someone’s stride pattern is slightly ahead when the video is paused.

    It shows they’re already getting bogged down in the minutiae of the rules and ignoring the spirit of the game
     
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  4. It'sOnlyAGame

    It'sOnlyAGame Well-Known Member

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    I blame Charlie Austin
     
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  5. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    100% for it.

    It's absolutely not perfect at the moment, and needs a lot of work (which includes the training of the referees). But I'm happy to give it time. Right now, there's not a bit of me that doesn't want it.
     
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  6. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    So we had this great game called football right, n then some brickie bloke from Poole opened his mouth and ****ing ruined it.... PARKLIFE!
     
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  7. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    "interesting"
     
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  8. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    Oh! That reminds me. Off topic but on the back of Derby's shirt under their number was the sponsor Jetcoin, I gave them a google. Yikes that looks dodgy. They're apparently a crypto currency which sponsors Derby, Verona and some Malaysian supermodel. And you get...dividends if they're successful? Who knows.
     
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  9. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

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    The only way VAR can be a bad thing is through misuse. At which point our problem is the same areas of incompetence which are already hampering the game.

    I remember the debates on the old 606 when DRS and whatnot was coming into cricket. A lot of the comments 'against' were a lot like the comments against VAR I see now. And those old comments would look pretty daft now if you looked at them, and I think these comments will too.
     
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  10. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Cricket is completely incomparable imo as the game is naturally stop-start with constant breaks in play.
     
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  11. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Reviews actually add to the interest of cricket....fills in some gaps. The annoying thing is when the umpires rely on it too much....for instance, asking for video evidence on a run out that can be seen clearly from your sofa. And the departing batsman has to wait whilst the bowler's foot placement is checked....once upon a time that would have been checked by the umpire as the ball left the bowler's hand.
     
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  12. VocalMinority

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    I found this randomly on youtube. thought it was a really good view on how refs make decisions and how they ,make decision with VAR involved.


    I like how they kind of talk to eachother like we do on here with the "for me its" and the "never" a pen. also how he only looked at VAR to sell the decision and it could have been called much sooner.
     
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  13. Velcro Roy

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    Would it be misuse if (say) Saints are breaking upfield on a really exciting attack and some joker calls play back for a possible fingernail infringement 30seconds or more ago
    Turns out it was their forwards hand and our attack is wrongly stopped?
    The only thing I can see improving is attendance figures at lower league level.
     
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  14. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    <ok>
     
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  15. Qwerty

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    It wasn't that obvious at the end of the video but he's moving to England and will be in the Championship next year.
    I think that the English VAR wizards favour less (or possibly no?) pitch-side screen usage, time-saving probably winning over added credibility. (as always I can't remember where I got this from exactly, so we'll see)
     
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  16. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    I’ve always enjoyed listening to the ref’s thoughts when watching rugby on TV, and I think football would benefit from this as well. The ref on that video is impressive in the way he interacts with both the players and his fellow officials. It would certainly mean the Kevin Friends of this world would have to get their act together!
     
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  17. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    That's definitely not going to happen.

    (I really feel like changes need to put less attention on refs, not more)
     
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  18. Clem Fandango

    Clem Fandango Well-Known Member

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    I like the technology but the problem is the humans interpretation.
     
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  19. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    You're never going to remove that though, and as you get shockers from experienced var officials I have no idea why anyone believes that our rabble will do any better.
     
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  20. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The only issue with human interpretation and VAR is handball. And given that the handball law is changing, that should end the problem.
     
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