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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. Goldhawk-Road

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    He was whisked away by security to avoid a complete battering
     
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    From LBC

    Sophie Linden: “Sadiq Khan is leading from the front in tackling violence in London”

    Eddie Mair: “Isn’t he on holiday at the moment?”

    Sophie Linden: “He’s not in the office at the moment, he has taken a short break”
     
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  3. sb_73

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    Chris Grayling has avoided the media for three days, and Hancock the health secretary was sent in as a human shield for parliamentary questions in his place today.

    Perhaps Grayling has taken a good look at himself in the mirror and the shame has got to him.
     
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    It’s bizarre how every single mayor of London has been total cack.
     
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    Does anyone seriously believe the government can influence these crimes

    It’s always post production after a tragedy has happened then it’s just a justification statement and so it goes on...

    If only they could use the media in advance
    Make it very clear to everyone what the punishments will be ... carry a knife and if caught then you lose everything ... spin it make it very uncool if you carry a knife then you are a coward

    Outlaw the gangs they are already underground anyway if caught then you are again ridiculed no badges of honour you are basically a anti part of society use the word terroristif need be ... we find that easy to put that tag onto people abroad

    None of this will happen why ?
    The powers that be don’t actually care anyway
    Well when elected make anyone in power responsible make the bloody police responsible
    If bad things happen on their watch make them pay as well

    Culturally the U.K. is in **** street because of weak poor governance imo and it won’t change until we shift reform and recapture the times when law and order was respected ... you do that today by taking the fight to the evil and show them a hard hand
     
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    All ****s and the latest one is the pinnacle of fluff
    What a spin artist he is
    Arm the police full time to put the fear back into society it works
     
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  7. sb_73

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    Or a halfway house of actually having enough police would be a start before we get into Judge Dredd territory. Tempting though that is.
     
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    Germany to strip 'Islamic State' fighters' citizenship — report
    Germany's Interior Ministry and Justice Ministry have reportedly agreed on a proposal to expatriate IS fighters. Interior Minister Horst Seehofer had tried to link the legislation with broader citizenship reform.
    Germany's governing coalition has agreed to strip fighters of the "Islamic State" (IS) militant group of their citizenship, according to German outlets Süddeutsche Zeitung, NDR and WDR.
    The new law would apply only to jihadis who are of age, have a second nationality and take part in future battles as part of IS. It would not be applied retrospectively, and thus would not affect IS fighters who are currently imprisoned.
    Read more: Germany preparing to prosecute dozens of IS fighters
    Germany's Nationality Act already includes a similar rule for dual nationals who join "the armed forces or a comparable armed unit" of another country without the permission of the German Defense Ministry.
    The new legislation would expand the Nationality Act to apply to someone who "takes part in combat operations abroad for a terrorist militia," which is defined as an "armed paramilitary organization" that violates international law in order to "establish a new state or state structures."
    What’s left behind after ISIS
    Internal disagreement
    The governing coalition, comprised of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives (CDU/CSU) and the center-left Social Democrats (SPD), had pledged to reform the law last year.
    But disagreements between the CDU/CSU and SPD stopped them from agreeing on a concrete proposal. The head of the CSU in the German Bundestag, Alexander Dobrindt, reportedly accused Justice Minister Katarina Barley from the SPD of delaying the legislation last week.
    Read more: Germany turning away more Yazidi refugees
    Barley is said to have resisted attempts by Interior Minister Horst Seehofer, a politician from the Bavarian CSU party, to link the legislation with further citizenship restrictions not directly related to terrorism.
    Part of Seehofer's initial proposal to the Justice Ministry was to allow authorities to strip children under the age of five of their citizenship if their parents had unlawfully acquired German citizenship, for instance, by deception.

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    This is fine. It's different when Germany does it. Unlike the far-right UK.
     
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  9. kiwiqpr

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    Attorney General Geoffrey Cox abandons time-limit and unilateral exit clause for Brexit backstop


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    Geoffrey Cox, the Attorney General
    The Attorney General has abandoned attempts to secure a hard time-limit or unilateral exit mechanism from the Irish backstop, The Telegraph has been told.
    Ministers briefed on Geoffrey Cox's approach said those aims, which represent the central demands of Eurosceptics, are considered too "blunt" and have been rejected by the European Union.
    Some Cabinet ministers are already resigned to the Prime Minister losing a second meaningful vote on her deal amid concerns that changes to the backstop secured by Mr Cox will not be sufficient to win round Brexiteers.
    The Attorney General is understood to be focusing on securing an enhanced "arbitration mechanism" that allows the UK or the EU to provide formal...
     
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  10. Sooperhoop

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    Of course I might be wrong here but who’s job is to recruit more police officers and to provide funding to the police ?
    I thought it was the government not the Mayor of London. Does Khan have any say in it ?
     
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    The Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime describes itself as ‘responsible for policing in London, outside the City of London’.

    ‘The Mayor of London, as occupant of the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) is required by law to produce a plan that explains how the police, community safety partners and other criminal justice agencies will work together to reduce crime. The Police and Crime Plan reflects the Mayor’s manifesto and priorities for making London a safer city for all Londoners and the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC) is the strategic oversight body tasked with devising the Police and Crime Plan and ensuring that it is delivered over four years’

    Not sure what role he has in funding and recruitment, which seems partly done by central government and local authorities. May and Osborne are jointly responsible for the 25% cut in funding since 2010.
     
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    But has he any control of how many officers can be recruited ?
     
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  14. sb_73

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    Just added to the original post. I’m not sure.

    Pretty stupid claiming to be responsible for something that you don’t control the resources/funding for though, isn’t it?
     
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    Totally mate, that’s what I don’t get. The common soundbite that gets put out is about there not being enough police on the streets, and if Khan isn’t to blame for the lack of recruitment you’d think he would be shouting out loud that it’s the fault of government not him.
    I can only assume that it is his responsibility and the fault lies at his feet.
     
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    and now
    just to lift the brexit / stabfest doon and gloom
    here is a good news story


    Record 4,855 people queue in the rain for HOURS to see if they are a stem cell match for boy, five, battling rare cancer after his parents launch desperate plea in hope of saving his life

    • Oscar Saxelby-Lee, from Worcester, has acute lymphoblastic leukaemia
    • Thousands of people went to get swabbed at his school to see if they could help
    • Doctors say he only has three months to find a donor to help cure his cancer
    By Sam Blanchard Health Reporter For Mailonline
    Published: 22:43 AEDT, 4 March 2019 | Updated: 02:01 AEDT, 5 March 2019
    Thousands of people have tried to become stem cells donors in a record-breaking bid to save the life of a five-year-old boy with cancer.
    Oscar Saxelby-Lee, from Worcester, inspired a total of 4,855 people to go to a testing drive at the weekend to see if they were a match.
    Doctors say the schoolboy has just three months to find a donor from whom they can take blood cells to treat Oscar's acute lymphoblastic leukaemia (ALL).
    He has already had chemotherapy since being diagnosed in December, but will need more aggressive treatment in order to overcome the disease.
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    Nearly 5,000 people turned up for a registration event to see if they could be a stem cell match for Oscar Saxelby-Lee, who needs a donor within the next three months to be able to fend off his leukaemia"

    The charity which will test the swabs, DKMS, said its previous record for a single event was 2,200 people – meaning Oscar's more than doubled that.
    Oscar's teacher Sarah Keating said: 'I've been teaching for 20 years and I've never had a child go through something like this.
    'You hear about children getting cancer and you think "that's dreadful", then you move on. In this case we haven't moved on, we will fight this.'
    ALL is a rare illness and only affects around 650 people in the UK each year, around half of whom are children.
    It is a fast-growing, aggressive cancer which causes large numbers of underdeveloped white blood cells to be released from diseased bone marrow.
    These blood cells continue to spread and cause symptoms like tiredness, difficulty breathing, pale skin, fever, and bone and joint pain.

    Oscar's teaching assistant Laura Senter, 22, said his diagnosis came as a shock to their class because his illness developed so quickly.
    She said: 'I couldn't believe it. I saw him before Christmas and he was his usual happy-go-lucky self.
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    • 'It's a nightmare for this to happen. You can't really do anything about it, it's heart-breaking.
      'We have gone into action mode to try and find a donor.'
      Volunteers queued outside in the rain and took over two of the school's halls for the weekend, handing out swabs and completing donor registration forms.
      Scientists will try to find a donor whose blood cells have a similar structure to Oscar's so his body will accept them if they are transplanted.
      He needs a stem cell transplant to replenish his own blood cells, which are being destroyed by chemotherapy – the closer the match is, the more likely the treatment is to work.
      Ms Senter added: 'I visited Oscar in hospital last month when it was his birthday. All the parents bought gifts for him.
      'Because of all the chemo he was very swollen but you could tell he was very much still him inside.
      'When we came out we knew we needed to do everything we could to support him.'
      It is unknown whether doctors have already searched the existing stem cell register to find a match for Oscar but Sarah Gray, spokesperson for the charity DKMS told the
      BBC: 'It's really difficult to find a match, it's essentially like winning the lottery.
      'It's very complex and so the more people we can get on that register, the more chances there are to saves lives of patients like Oscar.'

    HOW DO STEM CELL TRANSPLANTS WORK?
    As a treatment for acute lymphoblastic leukaemia (ALL), stem cell transplants work by replacing blood cells which are diseased or destroyed by chemotherapy.
    Having a stem cell transplant means the body can withstand higher doses of chemotherapy and other cancer treatments.
    During chemo, while cancer cells are destroyed by the drugs, so too are healthy blood cells which are necessary for the internal organs and immune system to work properly.
    If too many of these are destroyed it can be deadly, so doctors must control how much chemotherapy someone has – they want to destroy as many cancerous cells as possible without killing a deadly amount of healthy cells.
    Having a donor means that cells killed by chemo can be replaced using donor stem cells – which turn into red and white blood cells once injected into the body – helping the patient to recover quicker from the gruelling therapy.
    Stem cells are taken from a donor's blood sample so are preferable to bone marrow transplants, which have to be done under general anaesthetic.
    Source: Cancer Research UK

    Oscar's desperate parents, Olivia Saxelby and Jamie Lee, of St John's, Worcester, launched an appeal to find a match after his diagnosis.
    They aimed to get as many people as possible to sign up to a blood stem cell donor register as part of a campaign called 'Hand in Hand for Oscar'.
    Miss Saxelby, 23, said: 'We felt like we could not see light at the end of the tunnel, but when looking at Oscar's cheeky smile, bravery and determination, we managed to pull our strength together again.
    'From that moment of fear and confusion, we as a family became stronger than ever. Oscar reminded us how to fight again and just how courageous he is.
    'Not once has he shown weakness, nor has he ceased to amaze us throughout the most difficult times and that to us is a true warrior.
    'Oscar is a fun, loving, energetic five-year-old boy who deserves to live to the full alongside the other troopers fighting such horrific diseases.
    'Not only does he need to enjoy a normal life a child should live, he now needs someone else to save him.'
     
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    The bottom line is Khan is being found out big-time. He has spun his first two and a half years in office with slick PR and virtue-signalling 'Khandyfloss', basically saying everything minority groups like to hear but there is just no substance to any of the lies he is peddling about his alleged achievements.

    TfL is in meltdown with a massive deficit and every project they are involved with has gone or is going tits-up, London is gridlocked and it will only get worse as more segments of the Roads Modernisation Plan are rolled out. His house building promises have fallen far short of target and now his strategy against knife-crime is in tatters as he jets off on holiday.

    The saddest feature of this debacle is with the voting profile in the capital he'll almost certainly be re-elected as there is no credible opposition candidate who has a big enough persona to win...
     
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    Here’s the thing.
    On a meta level we are obviously screwed because we are a species, and all species become extinct. Not too bothered about this.
    On a mega level I can’t see what we are seriously capable of doing on a global level about climate change, so we might bring on the extinction a little quicker than strictly necessary. Meh.
    On a macro level every country seems to be in some kind of crisis, ****ed. Oh well.
    But at the micro, individual, level there are countless acts of kindness, selflessness and joy every day. Happily this is the level we live at mostly, and I’ll be dead before the meta and mega **** kicks in in earnest, and am well insured against the macro stuff.

    So all is good, keep calm and carry on.
     
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    Khan does seem to be particularly ineffectual, but less so than Johnson. I though Livingstone was pretty good.

    Wherever the responsibility lies for policing levels in London, it seems plain to me that more police across the country as a whole would be desirable. Theresa May, counterintuitively, still insists that there is no direct correlation between fewer police and increased violence. Meanwhile, Policing Minister Nick Hurd was on the wireless earlier proudly announcing more police on the streets in response to the surge in knife crime. Make your bleeding minds up! When pressed, he said May was right, though.
     
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    Anyone else stockpiling for March 29th?
     
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