If Huws features before the end of the season and builds up a run of games, then he’s worth retaining. I think he’s one of our technically better players and is incredibly creative. Reminds me of Judge somewhat, and having both of them fit and firing in League One, well, we might be laughing. However, Huws has barely featured for two years. He is presumably on a decent wage, as many of Mick’s signings were, so we have lost a lot of money paying him to sit on the treatment table. Jack Marriott didn’t cut it at Championship level. Billy Sharp’s early Championship form wasn’t good. David McGoldrick struggled in the Championship in his early career. I think Marquis’ form in League One speaks for itself over the past couple of seasons. We could do a lot worse and he has a better goalscoring record than Harrison and Jackson at that level. Just a suggestion though, as he’s likely to get snapped up by a Championship club this summer. Maybe Brett Pitman could make a return to the club? I’d like to focus on getting at least one player with a top goalscoring record at League One level in the club this summer. We need a 20-30 goal a season striker. But hey, everyone’s got their own preferences. Kayden Jackson has played 25 Championship games and 1000 minutes for this club. He has scored three goals. That’s not good enough and I’m not surprised he isn’t rated by the current manager. I would give him an opportunity in the next game, ahead of Quaner, but I honestly don’t think he’s part of the club’s long term plans.
3 goals in the equivalent of 11 matches when it’s been broken up in patches, in a terrible side and when he’s been played mostly isolated as a sole striker I’d say is not too bad. But I’m by no means suggesting he’s been great and like so many others I’m sure his spell at Town will put paid to his potential to be a top player. Jack Marriott was an obvious talent and so was Kieffer Moore. It’s not hindsight. There are loads of threads like this and it was always my number one criticism of McCarthy. https://www.not606.com/threads/give-jack-marriott-a-start.236115/ We just are a club that is abysmal at making the most of the talent we have and if I was a gifted player ours would be one of the last clubs I’d choose to join.
Kieffer Moore wanted to leave. If we'd played him for a single minute, due to the three club rule we couldn't have got 1p for him. He had to go. Marriott turned up after pre season nearly 2 stone overweight. What do you expect Mick to do? Mick slated him, and Marriott has even agreed with the criticism and said leaving was the kick up the a** he needed. Marquis has turned into an absolute goal machine the past three years, with zero signs of injuries but agree he'd cost a lot and will have far far far more appealing offers than us and championship ones at them too. As for Jackson, christ alive he looks well short of anything and needs a hell of a lot of work this summer. Right now not remotely good enough for the championship, and not sure how he'd do in L1. I'd like to cash in, not good enough in my view.
Haha and six years on, same old same old - genuinely thanks for bringing up that thread. How many arguments to have in one thread - best quote - although many to choose from I will pick as - ' To be fair its been quite a while since you have had a good debate ....maybe you should try and think a bit before you spout out some Patronising drivel. ' Weighty to you Hampy! Cracked me up that.
Yeah well you neglected the “Agree with you 100% hampy - why wait to the last game of the season, when in effect will be a meaningless friendly.” from stretchy and “I’m with Hampy on this” from SD... it was a good old debate. JWM are giving each other stick as usual and all in good humour. Some people are more sensitive than others and that’s up to them. If we were all the same life would be very dull. I was right though, we didn’t make the play offs and much like this season it’s often frustrating for me coming from an analysis and statistics background that other people can’t always see things unfolding that I can based on the laws of probability. If they could then the gambling industry would disappear overnight. I can see why some people would see that as patronising or pigheaded, but it’s not. Point was that Marriott’s talent was obvious. Evans has told us that Mick didn’t take sports science seriously so who do you blame if he’s not as fit as he could be - an experienced manager who sets the training and fitness regime or a kid? And of course Moore wanted away - he wasn’t playing - and when he did come off the bench he always impressed me. Ipswich are a side that has wasted a lot of talent and sold on the rest, which leaves us debating the relative merits of the likes of Jackson and Garner and Marquis instead of basking in the glory of Rhodes, Wickham, Moore, Marriott et al hitting dizzy goalscoring heights without a loan in sight. We pissed away the obvious talent of Luke Hyam and Andre Dozzell looks set to be the next on a very long very sorry list.
Oh Hampy, you’re a one! I do agree that Marriott perhaps could have been used earlier though. “Obvious talent of Luke Hyam “ - WHAT?!?!! Even when he was playing to the best of his ability pre injury, not for me. Bang average at best. Dozzell may be good technically but he has so many glaring deficiencies he must work on if he’s going to have a good career. Unlike Hyam, to me Dozzell IS a talent but it’s over to him. Accrington first half he was a passenger and the worst player on the pitch. It’s a massive summer for him! Either- get fully fit and next season work out well with us.... Or move on and play elsewhere. Massive shame that knee injury last season, not recovered from that in my view.
Erm, if Marriotts been given a summer schedule and comes back nearly two stone overweight, I blame him.... Mick blamed him.... and Marriott even held his hands up. To balloon that much, with your metabolism that good at that age shouldn’t happen. Must have drank one hell of a lot and eaten sooo much rubbish/ ignored the fitness schedule given. Rhodes sale haunts me, Marriott not at all, these things unfortunately happen.
To be fair, I'm sure if we trawled back through everyone's previous opinions on Ipswich players on this forum, everyone would have some some embarrassing posts unearthed.
Oh agreed Nuggets, we would, however ' obvious talent ' for Hyam was typed yesterday, not five years ago. Not a bad player that at least knew his role and got the most out of his incredibly limited ' ability '.
When he first broke through he was a breath of fresh air who looked like that holding midfield role was made for him, spraying passes about like he was the senior pro. The same promise most of us can see in Woolfy now. Why do you think we had a golden era under George Burley of young talent that all but dried up immediately after he left? George Burley had no influence on Richard Wright or Kieran Dyer's youth career, he just was prepared to play them and knew how to get the best out of them. It's not the quality coming through, it's what happens to them when they get into the first team and there are so many examples.
Bart is one of the few saleable assets we have (and is the highest earner) so would expect we'll be willing to part company (for not a lot either) to ease some of the financial strains.. Plus we might be better off looking for another (free) GK for next season anyway as Harry Wright is highly thought of and could be considered an option in the next few years. Huws is an odd one as he certainly wouldn't be offered a new deal if his expired in the summer, but it doesn't and therefore we're lumbered with him as he's not going to be attracting anyone given his injury record... So hopefully he can get himself fit enough to play a dozen or so games next season and we can get some use out of him before letting him go
I have to say Hampy.. I agree with you 100% We have some decent (but hugely under performing) players due to a mix of systems we play and lack of form/confidence. I'd say that a modest overhaul would put us in the best shape to make us competitive in League One next season.
Unpopular opinion, but when Adayemi is back in training I imagine he would be a ready made replacement. Great athleticism (when fit) and a decent footballing brain. 1. We won't be able to sign Keane.. He's on £25k a week at Hull, who have the option to extend his deal by another year. Which if they do will mean that we'd need to pay a transfer fee and come close to matching his wage or why would he want to leave Hull?.. And if they don't extend his deal then he'll be available on a free transfer and therefore lower wages, but I'd imagine a championship club would quite easily gazump us as we won't be able to afford much more than 10k and I'd expect some lower half champ club will take the risk on him for more than would be willing to pay. I'd love us to sign him though, as I think he'd score plenty in L1 2. Lambert clearly doesn't rate Jackson, but we spent £1.7m on him and won't see anything like that if we wanted to offload him and Knowing our luck he'd likely go somewhere like Posh, score a hatful and then get sold for £6m+ the following season. In short, he's worth persisting with in L1 where is 'ability' is probably more effective than Champ level and Harrison is an experienced and proven goalscorer at L1 which we would be stupid to throw away.. Though agree we could do with adding another one or two 'proven' options to that list
I expect us to lose all the loan players and those out of contract,plus Bart,Dozzell and/or Lankester.We won't be able to afford enough to entice Judge or Keane to stay and Lambert will be given minimal budget to sign loans/freebies. We won't be able to compete for the likes of Marquis so,all in all,I expect a struggle to mount a serious promotion push.All very "glass half empty" I know but this has been coming for some time now. As others have said its going to be important those coming back from long term injury step up to the mark to freshen up the squad.
Under Roy Keane he looked like a player destined for Premier League football and then under Jewell and McCarthy it was always downhill. You have to ask yourself why not a single youth academy product - not a single one - made a name for himself under McCarthy.
I don't believe it has got anything to do with the ability of players graduating from the academy. We have seen enough players show early promise that fades away. At the point they sign a pro contract it's then up to the manager and his coaching staff to coach and nurture them and there's a long list of names where that hasn't been the case.
