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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. woolstonian

    woolstonian Well-Known Member

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    I agree with your point but not your use of 'evade'. I hope you meant 'avoid' which is legal of course whereas evasion means jail time..
     
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  2. rednright

    rednright Well-Known Member

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    Please don't patronise me as a leave voter. It was clear that we would be outside the single market etc. I have no problem with anyone who voted remain so I expect the same courtesy. In terms of the younger vote...why didn't they then?
     
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  3. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Not patronising you at all, just complaining that you made a huge mistake which will make life worse for most of us.
     
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  4. rednright

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    what mistake? No mistake from me as I knew exactly what I was voting for.
     
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  5. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Well let’s hope you don’t get it then.
     
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  6. San Tejón

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    But one of the most distressing things is that this isn’t recent.
    People who voted for the Tories in 2017 knew this was going on and still voted for it to continue.
    It’s not just the Government who are to blame. The people who empower them have to take their share of the blame too.
     
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  7. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Yes, I think it was an H-1B for specialist occupation. He had just finished his Masters in film music composition, and Dan Heath liked his work, but unfortunately LA is teeming with film composers, so despite months of pleading no visa was forthcoming.
     
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  8. StJabbo

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    Shame on you then, what benefits for you and you family can there possibly be in this chaotic exit? Answer now please.
     
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  9. rednright

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    I'm not sure either of us will get what they want
     
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  10. rednright

    rednright Well-Known Member

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    There no shame in voting. You need to ask those that didn't vote.
    There's no shame in voting as it's a democratic right you know. You should save your ire for those that didn't vote.
     
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  11. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Abandoning Brexit altogether would suit me fine, failing that a Customs Union and access to the single market. That will do for starters.
     
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    Yes thankyou. I am aware of the differences and the implications :)
     
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  13. AshbySaint

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    How on earth can you say that with any certainty???? You may have known what you wanted the outcome to be, but you never ever could have been convinced that that was what it was ever going to be. Some wanted to leave but did they want to fall of a cliff at the same time?

    There are just too my variables and different viewpoints. Just because a group of people voted to leave doesn't mean they all wanted exactly the very same outcome. Thats why we are in such a mess. Unlike a general election we can't vote for a reversal in 4-5 years. This is it.
     
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  14. Missing Lambo

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    The case that prompted this discussion is shameful. On that there would be full agreement, I would hope.

    If I had to point a finger it would be at the right wing press who peddle disinformation. When I Daniel Blake was first released, the Daily Mail described it as propoganda. My wife and I have been involved with the Foodbank movement for far too long, and found it hard to believe that any intelligent person could accept this view. But, sure enough, a few weeks later at a gathering of the chattering classes my wife's suggestion that the film needed to be seen by everyone was met with howls of derision from a number of people who proceeded to tell us about scroungers and beggars who make "a fortune" etc etc. Their source was, of course, The Daily Mail.

    I truly despair.
     
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  15. rednright

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    Sorry but i can be certain.politically i do not want to be in the EU.
     
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  16. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Just catching up and <applause><applause><applause><applause><applause><applause><applause><applause><applause><applause> 100%. One world, one life, embrace it. Build bridges not walls.
     
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  17. StJabbo

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    Seamlessly traveling to Cologne from the Hague on the ICE train, no border, same currency and cheaper prices in Germany. Temperature heading towards 20°C. 3 points v Fulham coming Wednesday. Carnival starts Thursday with women's crazy day parade. Lots of benefits for staying in the EU.
     
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  18. AberdeenSaint

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    When Norway were considering joining the EU in the 90s, the joiners were told to go and find out the facts before putting it to the people - they did, and decided against it. That`s what should`ve happened here - the facts should have been ascertained before the referendum. I see William Hill now have a second referendum as odds on - fingers crossed!
     
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    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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