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Daily Racing Thread Friday 15th. Feb. 2019

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by attivo, Feb 14, 2019.

  1. redcat1

    redcat1 Well-Known Member

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    Dundalk 5:30
    Laethanta Saoire 6/1 E/W
     
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    Off a ticket tout although Cheltenham will be clamping down on that this season.

    Alternatively go tattersalls or best mate which will be cheaper. I don't mind the best mate enclosure for the entertainment before the racing.
     
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  3. OddDog

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    Pissed it <ok>
     
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  4. jumpsfan

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    hi fellas! hope,youre well so far.

    fakenham,2 10:

    BRELAN D AS will find this surely a bit easier than his last assignments,where he still ran well,especially his win two starts ago has been well boosted by the second and third.so,if he takes to this track,should go very well today..

    sandown,2 25:

    QUEENOHEARTS, danse idol and papagana all met last time out,where they were 1st 2nd and 4th respectively.and while there was only about a length between the first two that day,and my choice is worse off with a penalty,she was well on top in the end,so can confirm the form this time around..
     
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  5. Ste D

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    Nice shout Oddy, can't see AK47 even placing in the Arkle
     
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    Did that nicely<magic>
     
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  7. jumpsfan

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    yes,a very tough mare! grounded it out well..

    sandown,3 00:

    RATHLIN ROSE is a standing dish in these races,and hes won this race for the last two years,also off this mark two years ago.he has also struck a great relation with this rider,so no reason,why he wont go very well again..
     
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  8. Denny4

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    4:05 Sandown - The Drinkymeister 20/1. Win bet
     
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  9. jumpsfan

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    sandown,3 20:

    quite open this,but most of these havnt won for a long time,but not so UN PROPHETE,who might be running into form again,and his latest third place has been boosted by the winner yesterday at kelso.is also not badly treated,and should go well here..
     
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  10. Grendel

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    I thought Glen Forsa was a well handicapped horse because the horse he beat last time, Glen Rocco, came out and dotted up next time, earning a rise of 13 lbs from the official handicapper, leaving him just 1 lb lower than Glen Forsa on 137.

    On official ratings today Kalashnikov was a stone ahead on 152 but I doubt that was actually the case, still I never thought Glen Forsa could beat him and certainly not in the manner that he did.

    The Racing Post have framed the race to read that Glen Forza ran 16 lbs better than ever today, while Kalashnikov was given a mark 21 lbs lower than his best of 158 on 137. You would think that Glen Forza will be hit by a stone raise from the official handicapper but in a three horse race, where the only other runner was rated 92 by the Racing Post for today's effort, 52 lbs worse than when running behind Glen Forza on Boxing Day, how can we be sure how well Kalashnikov actually ran today?

    I would be a bit worried that Glen Forza may get thumped by the Handicapper and end up in the 150's which would make life potentially very tough in that sphere.

    Jack Channon said it might be difficult to take today's race at face value, while Amy Murphy commented that the JLT has to come into the reckoning for Kalashnikov after today's disappointing effort at the shorter trip.

    I couldn't have Glen Forza for the Arkle at 6/1 myself but he buried them today for sure.
     
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  11. Ste D

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    CrossingOz should run well in 6.30 at Dundalk.Was only beaten by half a length over c&d last month and 4lb rise seems fair enough.Ive seen worse 13/2 price runners so will have a little dabble.
     
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    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    He did indeed- 19 lengths. The novice handicap will not be an option for this one once the handicapper has had his say.
     
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  13. jumpsfan

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    well,a few thoughts on the kalashnikov debate: i think,it would be unfair,to judge a horse on one single race,and hes proven more than once,that hes a exceptional animal.so,maybe,he had just an off-day today,and i wouldnt be put off for the arkle,just on that respective effort.maybe,more comes to light in the next days...

    sandown,4 05:

    quite a competitive affair,but i think,STRONG PURSUIT has a big shout,if fully would up for today.hes still quite unexposed over fences,despite his age,so he looks definite e w value to me..
     
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  14. OddDog

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    I think Kalashnikov is not right. At Kempton he jumped adequately (at best) and was being scrubbed along far too early. Same today - he was comprehensively out-jumped down the back straight and didn't respond to the jockey's urgings after the pond fence. I would put him away for the season and consider reverting to hurdles next season. He is still a young horse and I fear that more exertions at Cheltenham and possibly Aintree / Punchestown could take a significant toll.
     
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  15. OddDog

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    Glen Forsa was magnificent and they can choose either Arkle or JLT depending on going and opposition. He looked every inch an Arkle horse today. Worth pointing out the time too - 2 seconds quicker than Altior in the Tingle Creek on similar (albeit probably slightly quicker) ground and nearly 4 seconds quicker than today's handicap chase over c&d.
     
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  16. Ste D

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    Shout Red
     
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  17. Ste D

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    winner chicken dinner.Chess Grand Master won for us last week and reckon he'll go in again in 7.30.
     
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    shout ste mate , you’re on a good run <cheers>
     
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  19. Grendel

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    Not sure the time means much. When Altior ran in the Tingle Creek, Dynamite Dollars ran almost 4 seconds faster in the Henry VIII Novice Chase earlier. The Hurdle races on Tingle Creek day were given as being run on Heavy going, while today stated that they were on soft going.

    The big factor in explaining why Dynamite Dollar was able to run faster than Altior was probably because there was a heavy rain shower after Dynamite Dollar's race and before Altior's race.

    I don't trust times implicity for reasons such as these and sometimes lazy errors in recording the data occurs. The Racing Post reported Dynamite Dollar's winning time as 3.59.30 while the ATR Website gave it as 4.00.00

    For Altior, the Racing Post state his time as 4.3.20 while the ATR site said it was 4.3.40

    What chance have punters got when you can't trust people to record the actual facts?
     
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    Agree times can only be indicative but Glen Forsa ran a good time today and I think he has the perfect mix of speed, stamina and fluent jumping for the Arkle <ok>
     
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