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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

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    that is somewhat true but the best will in the world you can put great players into a pure zonal system and the right ball beats them all ends up.

    The issue for me with zonal marking is you take your best headers and string them along the 6 yard box static then get a big man powering in for header at full pelt.

    you need run blockers and other zones etc and frankly i think guys just get free too easy. The best system form me is a mix of the two. You need to go man for man with the best headers on the other team and try run with them, even a small man can put a big guy off his leap.

    If you put a 5 foot 6 inch guy on a 6 foot 4 inch cb and tell him run with him and leap with him and put him off he can actually do it.

    You do need those crucial zones occupied.

    What teams are doing to us is going and fouling virgil van dijk constantly form any set piece to stop him clearing it. They are relying on where we place firmino (look at him middle of our 6 yard box) and try to run to middle to near for a free header.

    Given silva has the same issues every where and Rafa had these
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

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    it's over to spurs now.

    should.be quite an entertaining game but I've really no idea what will occur in this one.

    spurs have looked nervy in prior years and Dortmund are a very good team this year so it's going to be interesting.
     
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  3. astro

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    FA charge Klopp over comments made after West Ham

    Still not a word from them on the racist abuse suffered by Salah
     
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  4. RogerisontheHunt

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    FA needs to suck it up and accept that the standards of officiating in England are poor.

    Managers should have a right to question certain decisions, their jobs count on result and if a referee makes a poor decision that could cost them employment.
     
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    Zonal marking has always been criticised when it doesn't work but rarely, if ever, praised when it does. Rafa used it to perfection at times.

    There are lots of free headers with man-marking because the opposition invariably lose their man, either with good movement or from blocking. With zonal, the main criticism is that the opposition can get a running jump because the defenders are static in their zonal positions. Unlike with man-marking every delivery into the box will be contested plus the goalkeeper has more space to command his six-yard box. Get this right and it pays dividends, get it wrong and you're Everton.
     
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    It's odd isn't it that you're not allowed to criticise the referee. I understand no personal remarks should be made but I don't see any harm in being critical of poor decisions. Let's not forget that these remarks are made immediately after the game when emotions are running high.
     
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  7. Zanjinho

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    Seen Man Utd fans have turned on OGS (not on here) after last nights loss. That didn't take long <laugh>
     
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    I don’t miss chasing 20 year old lads on a Saturday and Sunday anymore

    :bandit:
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

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    at times...

    only at times.

    he had hyppia and carragher etc and I regularly heard it said we couldn't defend set piece.

    it's very simple; a good side will see the weaknesses and play into half space in the box or play for the clearances.

    the theory of zonal is that you will score only from certain key zones so you plonk a big lad in each key zone and get up and clear it.

    the problem is you must move to make a clearance so you.block the movement of the defender with a body and play towards that half space the defender has to move to. result is free header.

    if you have 5 or 6 big lads ok... it might work but if you've average height players and just two big cbs cos you are a technical side.. well you just have to mark up and hassle and obstruct clean headers.
     
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    Biscan still tries....
     
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    2005-6 Liverpool finished top of the set piece defending stats!
     
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    Not watching either game but just saw BBC headline "Ajax goal controversially ruled out by VAR" - anyone see it?
     
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  13. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Tottenham 1:0 Borussia Dortmund (Son)
     
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    Pogba went from all smiles to deliberately getting himself sent off in less than one half
     
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    Zagadou is proper sh!t
     
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    The same as the Mané one last game, technically 1mm offside but then irrelevant to how the play went.

    That time they raged for the rest of the game that it should have been disallowed. This time it has been and they're not happy.

    #neutral #bbcsalford
     
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  17. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Tottenham 2 :0 Borussia Dortmund
     
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    Bayern doing it for Germany tomorrow now :(
     
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    Schalke?
     
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    You’re either offside or not, the ‘technically’ is merely your excuse for a BBC rant.
     
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