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Nonce jailed

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  1. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    Or is he a nonce...

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    An office worker who lost his job and home after he spent the night with a 12-year-old schoolgirl who pretended to be 19 has been jailed for two-and-a-half years.

    Carl Hodgson, 27, brought the girl to his Manchester quayside apartment after he met her on a dating app - not realising she used a fake profile which claimed she was 'experienced'.

    He admitted to carrying out a sex act on the girl and took an explicit image of her in a body stocking, writing: 'Mine was decent, nailed that bird, unreal bod.'

    He was arrested a month later after the girl's mother found her daughter had logged onto his home WiFi and told police.

    He said he did not know the girl's real age and that it was her who suggested they go back to his apartment.

    The girl, who is known to regularly go missing from home, admitted posing as a 19-year-old and said Hogdson did not know her real age.

    Hodgson admitted engaging in sexual activity with a child, making and distributing indecent images and was ordered to sign the Sex Offenders Register for life.

    He was banned from contacting girls under 16 without permission of their parents for seven years, and disqualified from living and sleeping in same household as child under 16. His not guilty plea for rape was accepted.

    Judge David Stockdale told Hodgson at Manchester Crown Court: 'You have expressed regret and remorse of your actions and I consider your remorse and regret to be genuine.

    'Whilst she was 12 at the time of these events, you did not believe that to be the case.

    'You took the complainant to your flat and you in due course spent the night with her and caused her to pose indecently for your own gratification. You were to boast later that you had sexual activity though it is fact you had not.

    'The complainant was by reason of her age highly vulnerable to exploitation and she was no doubt impressed by you.

    'This is most serious offending as you will now have appreciated. The effects on a child of such a young age of offending of this sort are well known and well documented, and these effects will last for the rest of the child victim's life.

    'I noted in the victim personal statement of the mother which I have read, she speak of how her daughter is in a withdrawn state, her lack of cooperation and her silence. The statement from the social worker which I have read, speaks of the complainants guarded nature and her unwillingness to discuss events and her part in this case.

    'It's inevitable, she will suffer in the long term as a result of your offending.'

    The incident took place on February 23 last year when the pair started messaging on social media.

    Prosecutor Justin Hayhoe said: 'He says he met the her through a dating application and her personal profile was over the age of consent. It stated she was experienced and he regarded their meeting as a date.

    'At her suggestion they went back to his flat. They drank a single alcohol drink. He said they went into his bedroom, removed their clothing, she removed her own and she believed she was over 18.'

    Hodgson carried out a sex act then took an indecent picture of the girl on his mobile phone and sent the image to a friend.

    Mr Hayhoe added: 'He didn't believe he was talking to a child who was under 18. When they spent the night at his property, he believed she was over 18.

    'But the complainant was 12 and the defendant was 27 at the time. The Crown say there was a significant difference between their two ages.

    'She presented herself on her social media profile as someone over the age of 16. She did say a meeting took place at the defendants flat and she maintained to the police that the defendant thought her age was 19 rather than 12.'

    The pair had met on a popular dating app before talking on WhatsApp, the court heard.

    Mr Hayhoe added that the mother would sleep downstairs to stop the girl leaving the home but noticed at around 8.30pm that her daughter had left.

    He said: 'Police officers attended his address and images were recovered in his mobile phone including a moving image of the complainant posing in a body stocking. He sent one image to his friend and a message stating: 'mine was decent, nailed that bird, unreal bod'. He also said she was 'filth'.

    'The girl declined to give details of what took place and hasn't provided a victim impact statement. She remained in the property over night when she was vulnerable.

    'She told him she was 19 years of age rather than her true age and he reasonably believed the victim to be older than she was.'

    A social worker said the girl was 'very relucatant' to talk about the incident and was 'vulnerable at the time of the defence'.

    In mitigation, defence lawyer Alexander Leach said: 'The defendant used a dating app, one which was used for adults designed for contact with other adults. It's an extremely popular application widely used by various cross sections of society.

    'She had the propensity and capacity of looking at herself as a 19 year old rather than a near 13 year old.

    'Carl Hodgson was not aware he was engaging in sexual activity with a child and he did not intend to engage in sexual activity with a child. He could not anticipate the vulnerability of the child or the disparity in age.

    'He must have known she was significant younger than him, but he believed her to be older than 16. If he had been aware, he would not have deemed it appropriate to take her to the apartment and provide her with alcoholic drinks.

    'He has lost his employment, his home and he has the stigma which comes with offending of this sort.

    'There is no evidence this defendant sought out children for sexual gratification. It wasn't his intention to commit the offence - it's been a frightening experience for him.'
     
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  2. Bodinki

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    Nice, she completely ruined the guys ****ing life.

    Though she must be a ****ing mature looking 12 year old to get away with being 19!!

    I would need to see the child before I could accept plausible deniability from the guy though.
    I am sceptical of a 12 year old that can reasonably pass for 19, but weirder things have happened, I nearly got hoodwinked by a 14 year old when I was 19/20.
     
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    I've not seen Sky on here for a while...and his dating thread seems to have disappeared...<whistle>
     
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  4. Bodinki

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    <laugh>
     
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  5. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    It may seem harsh but I refuse to believe any 12 year old would ever look old enough for me to want to sleep with them.

    There's not knowing but you would definitely have an idea imo and choosing to accept her lie.
     
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    Yeah thats the part I am a little sceptical of.
    I have seen some kids who can pull off an adult guise convincingly but none as young as twelve, as far as I can recall.
    And especially none that could pull off 19!
     
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  7. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I'm not sceptical, I can believe it. I met these 2 girls in the London pub in Fuengirola, 2 fit sisters, 1 did look a little young, she'd just turned 16, and was all giggley and slightly childish, so I thought I'd go for the other sister, who she looked older and she acted far more maturely and passed for 18. It turned out she was 3 years younger. (No, I didn't do anything)
     
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  8. PINKIE

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    Skim read the title as 'Beyonce Jailed' for a minute there <laugh>
     
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  9. Bodinki

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    I am not completely ruling it out to be honest.
    Like I said, a 14 year old nearly ****ing got me once, it was only because her mate slipped up in the bar and said something that made me think "Hang on a minute".
    I would have said she was 18, easily!!

    And this 12 year old, her parents should be losing custody of her ffs.
    Letting her make profiles on online dating sites for adults and going out to sleep with adults, geez louise!! My daughter is only 8 and I STRICTLY monitor what she has access to online, and will do until she is at least 16.
     
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    Girl needs to be put down

    Too many bitches try that because they know at the end of the day they can start blubbing and everyone will believe them
     
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    ^^^****
     
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  12. Bodinki

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    yeah
    Why not do it, they know there is no comeback on them if they get found out.
    They get grounded for a week with no pocket money, whilst he goes to prison.....
    Again, I would need to see the child in her clobber before I could say whether or not for sure there was grounds for plausible deniability.

    Its the sex offenders register bit that gets me, his life is proper ****ed!!

    let that be a lesson to people meeting women online.....be diligent.
     
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  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Can't buy the story of believing a 12 year old looked 19.
     
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    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    You'll try to, you just gotta hope you're more tech savvy than she will be when she's in her teens, and that she does it at home on systems you can monitor.
    I'm glad I don;t have kids, I dont really have to worry about the internet that way (just the DMCA), but if I was a parent the internet would scare me silly as kids are curious and naive. Personally I think all adult sites of any description should have a CC wall.

    c'mon man, she's 12, if she was in her 20's I'd agree, but at 12 did you really think about the consequences of your actions?
     
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  15. Spurlock

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    Happens too much...they must all be Fatherless...bet Momma was doing the same back in the day.

    Like I said these kind of girls need to be put to sleep...save the next generation
     
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  16. Big Ern

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    Don't blame the kids, blame the parents and the media, the kids are just following nature.
     
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    Yes, to a degree, but she still lied, both to the dating site and the guy, and said she was 19, so she obviously knew she was in the wrong.
    But yes the parents are ultimately to blame. My daughter wouldnt be able to get anywhere near a dating website!
     
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    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I can't castigate th girl for lying about her age, everyone has done it, I never thought about the livelihood of the proprietors of the pubs I frequented as a 15 year old (I've always looked old, which was great then, not so much now). They could easily have lost their license and totally ****ed their family, but that didn't even enter my mind until this conversation some 30 years later. At that age you don;t think of the consequences, and she's even younger.
     
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    I got a load of **** for this a few years back on GC, but when I was working in a high school I saw some of my students on a night out (13/14 years old) and had I not know they were students I would never have thought they were under 19

    I was 26 at the time. And I don't know if things would have looked different once one of the girls was alone in a bedroom (as in all the make up and **** was off and maybe their true age would be more obvious) but at that moment out and about no way would you call them being anything but the age they told you ie 18/19


    Throw alcohol into the mist and the results can be life destroying. Knew a young lad 19 years old who "pulled a bird" on a night out. Turns out she was 15. He was put on sex offenders register etc. If you see the girl no way she looks 15
     
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    Kim Kardashian and Twerking is not Nature

    Not all girls are like that...only some and im sure those that don't act like little slags are not in anyway deficient of nature's urges.

    Schools are to blame since our kids spend 5 days a week, 6 hours a day there...parents are to blame because they let TV babysit their kids...because most mother's are too busy on FB themselves.

    If the girl is blameless then so is the bloke for following his nature too.
     
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