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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    How the heck is rough times not going to affect me?
     
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  2. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Well depending on your financial status things could impact certain people more than others.

    For example, people already struggling to put food on the table will be more greatly affected if food prices rise.
    A leave vote has the potential to inflict more suffering on the already suffering.
     
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  3. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Maybe because you are retired on a decent pension, mortgage paid off, kids all grown up?

    That’s a guess obviously, apologies if I’m way out. It’s just that one frequently finds those who say they are happy to take the hit for Brexit are in quite secure circumstances, and actually think it’s “the country” rather than themselves personally, who will suffer.
     
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  4. Beddy

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    Agreed.......but in truth that would always be the case. It may not affect me as much as those perhaps. Perhaps that is why I try to help people like that on a regular basis. Not just in times of crisis!
     
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  5. Beddy

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    Well I should have had a decent pension. But when equitable life went down so did the best part of my pension. Yes all my children have grown up and are spread around the world. Their children too are all of marriageable age. (Two announced their marriage plans last week bless them). Also I have more than the average number of grand kids. Including great grand children. 2 and one on the way. So when I made my decision do you really think I didn’t consider them and how it might affect them?
     
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  6. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    No, I’m sure you did.

    I just think you were incredibly misguided and it’s their generation that will pay the cost. Let’s hope I’m wrong, eh?
     
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  7. Beddy

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    Agreed.........in truth I think we are all in for some nasty shocks as well as some surprises. I truly think the government of the day has cocked the whole thing up. No matter which side you voted for non of us could have envisaged this mess.
     
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  8. davecg69

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    Sorry, Archers, but that’s bollocks. The only ones who won’t suffer are the mega-rich (and certain politicians) who can (or possibly have) move their assets overseas, short sold on sterling and UK shares and don't give a flying **** about the “ordinary people”.
    I’m retired and don’t have a mortgage, so, yes, I’m lucky, but my pension is predicated on share prices, I want my kids to be able to work where they would like to in Europe and I genuinely fear for this country now we’ve gone down this road to madness. Oh yes, and my pharmacy have informed me that they cannot guarantee that the drugs which keep me alive will not be affected after March 29, as they are produced in the EU.
    I do not understand how anyone can say “wait and see” when all the indicators are that this is going to harm the country and even the government are planning for shortages, civil unrest and putting into place “contingency plans”.
    What a ****ing triumph
     
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  9. San Tejón

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    This is good.

     
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  10. San Tejón

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    I personally know 9 People who works for 2 large Japanese banks that have lost their jobs because of Brexit. The Truth is if you're an American or Japanese Entity in the Risk or Finance sector the European market is more profitable and important than solely the U.K market. Now I'm sure eventually smaller offices will open to capture the U.K market. The U.K on its own is less profitable and important than the U.K as the financial centre of 27 countries. London's loss will be the gains of Frankfurt, Amsterdam and Lichtenstein.
     
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  12. Missing Lambo

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    Anyone else reached the point that I have where, when the big retailers talk of shortages post-Brexit, I want to say 'Bring it on'? Not because I or anyone I love will be exempt, but because I think the only way the no-deal warriors are going to believe how crap it can be is when it happens. I will then sport a T-shirt bearing the slogan 'Don't blame me, you twat!'.

    I cannot believe stuff I'm hearing. If one more person says "Oh, project fear. They said x would happen after the vote and it hasn't" I will not be held accountable for my actions. I have found that reminding them that we haven't ****ing left yet falls on stony ground.

    I believe in democracy. There was a vote. Right. Despite that fact that I am a dyed-in-the-wool europhile, I genuinely believed that there had to be advantages to our leaving. I am still waiting to be told what they are, and I don't mean the vacuous bollocks spoken by the ERG.
     
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  13. San Tejón

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    A passionate speech about health insurance in the USA.

     
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  14. San Tejón

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    Anyone else intrigued as to how the potential loss of tv licences for the 75 and overs pans out?
    Is this the first time that the Tories have deliberately created a situation that will disadvantage a massive group of people that traditionally vote for them, hence their decision to pass the buck to the BBC, in the hope that should/when it happens they will still have two years in which to persuade the voters that it had nothing to do with them?
    I think the number that would be affected stands at around 4 million. That is a lot of people to upset, my brother in law being one of them, who, as it happens, voted for the Tories.
     
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  15. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Wow! Sounds like he should be in Congress himself!
     
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  16. Beddy

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    Yet we are being told our unemployment is the lowest for decades. That despite all this uncertainty. Although in truth I hear what your saying.
     
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  17. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Unemployment is counted as being low mainly because of the number of people on zero hours contracts earning a pittance. Brexit won’t do much to improve their lives, or reduce the number of employed people having to use food banks.
     
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  18. AberdeenSaint

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    The more this Brexit farce goes on, the more I keep thinking that we should have another referendum (in or out) - it`ll be an `in`, then the Brexiteers can go away and come back when they have a plan that will be acceptable to the majority of our people, to the majority of the govt, and one that credible industry/business stakeholders think won`t bring economic hardship to the country. That`s never. That`s democratic, right ?
     
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  19. Schrodinger's Cat

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    Wow indeed, what an intelligent, impassioned speaker that guy is, and hit the nail on the head about the immorality of healthcare insurance for profit...how lucky are we to have the NHS, and how long can we hang onto it in its current form?
     
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  20. Saints_Alive

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    A Tory Goverment unfettered by the restrictions of European laws and regulations quite frankly scares the **** out of me, yet ordinary people vote for them and Brexit, turkeys voting for Xmas comes to mind.
     
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