We don’t say goodbye until March anyway Plus it’s great it’s looks like Ellers won’t get his Brexit ... never mind only two years wasted Extend Article 50 until all the sheep are back in their pens No right to piss take the EU Look closer to home first to see how we do things first British politics needs to step up into this century to match the magnificence of Euro Politics When will the Blue Sheep really understand that for years the wool has been pulled over their eyes with a antique set of rules that the rest of the world has surpassed decades ago Everywhere you look inside your home you will see European products. Europeans will unite and adapt to any shortfall imo it’s within their culture to do so ... they will look after their own quite rightfully. We must separate ourselves from the Brexiteer There must be a way that the 48% if desired can still belong to Europe that has to come next Let the sheep drown if they choose to From the Poseidon Adventure: You’re going the wrong way DO NOT let them drag you under with them Invest in Europe because what’s left of the UK will need bailing out big time
Of course it’s Brexit and the uncertainty House growth where I live in the UK still going through the ceiling
The Conservative **** Empire headed by the Maybot CP3O Corbyn Skywalker will sort the Slith Sheep a lot of which now have ringworm and scrapie
Goldie you should remember everything is the fault of Brexit. What upsets me more than anything is the way we have gone about our business. It's so sad watching the leader of the Worlds 5th biggest economy going cap in hand and cowering to heads of countries that contribute about £5. It really is embarrassing. I just hope we learn from this and that this country starts looking after itself and produces stuff for its people. All the crap about food shortages and medicines is an embarrassing situation. Yes, we cant do everything ourselves but we need to be more self sufficient.
That sounds like a Maybot speech We can’t even produce enough power to supply our nation so I would start there Apocalypse is coming quick let’s hide in the barn
“Racist” Trump just signed an executive order for urban revitalization to help lift blacks out of poverty. This order will incentivize companies to invest in black neighborhoods bringing jobs & opportunity. It also gives business loans to help start ups. Zero Media attention.
Here's a long one, but worth a read. I found it on another forum I visit, and liked it enough to want to share it. Not my words, but an interesting take on the perception gap we're all suffering from, I thought. Our discussions seem to focus a lot on what the EU stops us from doing and not much on what it stops others from doing to us. The "freedom to" as opposed to the "freedom from" in the post... /what he wrote starts here/ Many people misunderstand the nature of the EU. It exists as a project to implement the rule of law to bind the actions of nations. It defines a legal framework applied impartially to all member countries, just as the domestic rule of law of each nation applies to all individuals. In the absence of rule of law, there's effectively just the rule of power/wealth. That's all about leverage and asymmetric relations, and is the goal of Brexit - to reclaim 'sovereignty' for the nation by pulling out of a framework of rule of law, and reverting to a framework of rule of power. So there's a clash of mindsets. The major players behind “Leave” assume power and wealth rule over adherence to law - that's the way they see the world, and are trying to make the rest of the world comply. Those who work within the framework of the rule of law see legal rules as setting limits on what can be negotiated or leveraged. The EU won't bend the law for leverage, even though that's how those promoting Leave think things work. The rule of law doesn't stop power and wealth (and asymmetries of power and wealth) from existing, it just sets a legal framework to limit their actions. Someone mentioned lobbyists and implied corruption. You have lobbyists near the centre of power in a system based on the rule of law, just as you'd have them near power that is unconstrained by law. Absolute monarchs had their courtiers whispering in their ear and seeking advantage just as elected governments have their lobbyists. Some things never change. The EU is an attempt to bring the rule of law to relations between countries. We're familiar with the idea that as individuals we (should) operate within the limits imposed on us by the rule of law and can enjoy freedoms that come from other people having the same limits. Law limits "freedom to" but grants "freedom from". As individuals our freedom to steal from or assault another person is restricted, but the same rules should grant us some degree of freedom from theft or assault. The laws of the EU set limits on the actions of member states, equally applicable to all member states. They don't stop problems of asymmetries of power and wealth - the EU is struggling to come to terms with problems caused by a powerful Germany and weak periphery just as Europe before the EU struggled to come to terms with a powerful Germany and weak periphery. But there's a general belief in the EU that how those problems played out in the absence of any institution binding nations to the rule of law was not to be repeated (again). Just to be clear, the EU doesn't exist to make the problems and tensions that arise (from people and politics and geography and culture, and whew, everything) magically go away, it exists to provide a framework of law (and the democratic structures to determine that law) to set limits on how nations can react to deal with these problems, restricting their "freedom to" (particularly the larger nations) and granting them a degree of "freedom from" (especially the smaller nations).. The UK is choosing to reject being bound by the rule of law operating among nations. It is demanding its sovereignty - its "freedom to". That's what Brexit is all about. As for the money, we can certainly withhold payment of the balance owing from what we said we'd pay when the EU budget was last determined in 2014 (the money has already been marked for salaries, facilities, research grants, construction costs, etc based on previous promises). That would be a problem for the EU as the remaining 27 countries would need to cover the costs. It would certainly sour future relations with the EU and, by reneging on previous commitments, likely make other non-EU countries more careful about taking us at our word in any future "Global Britain" negotiations. /and finishes here/
How come house growth is not hit by Brexit in your area then? Do you rule out the huge hikes in stamp duty competely?
No, I'm not going to explain it to you. I'll just be accused of being condescending and "explaining it to the thick Leave supporter". You're definitely not thick. Maybe you're just the other side of the perception gap. And maybe that's why we all have such a problem changing each others hearts and minds...
Was an honest question as I didn’t really get the point the article was making so really no need for your tone in answering. I guess you didn’t also or you might of just answered a simple question Think I’m gonna take a break from posting on this forum. Enjoy
Comrade Jezzbollah and his momentum thugs will never get the keys to number 10, the man is a bigger danger to this country and its future than any other possible leaders, socialism never works just look at Venezuela.
